Massey Preseason Poll

[ronfitch]

FWIW...

1. NDSU
2. UNI
3. Jacksonville State
4. Illinois State
5. SDSU

9. Western Illinois
10. Youngstown State
15. Southern Illinois
21. Indiana State
21. South Dakota

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cf2016&sub=11605

[panther-state]

Re: Massey Preseason Poll

What is it like to be a Missouri St fan during football season?

[Trapped in California]

What is it like to be a Missouri St fan during football season?

pretty much the same as off football season, full of Prozac

Sent from my NSA monitored One+ 3

[claw]

Illinois State will be lucky to get to 7 wins. Top 5 shows how little a computer take take into acckunt

['70 Grad]

Re: Massey Preseason Poll

So the Massey top 21 also gives you all you need to know for a MVFC pre-season poll!

Didn't the CAA use to brag? Now the best they have is #13, followed by #25,26,29.

[UNIdad]

Re: Massey Preseason Poll

Hmmm. Predicting 3 of 4 in the semi-finals? Probably sent an alert to stack one side of the bracket again with MVFC teams!

[UNIdad]

Re: Massey Preseason Poll

FCS #1 and #2 could both have September wins against FBS teams in Iowa!

[SteinPizza]

Re: Massey Preseason Poll

So the Massey top 21 also gives you all you need to know for a MVFC pre-season poll!

Didn't the CAA use to brag? Now the best they have is #13, followed by #25,26,29.

Those CAA schools will be back, assuming FCS stays the same. Don't assume that the MVFC will be on top perpetually. There's too much cyclical stuff in college football.

[MnPantherFan]

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First impressions:

Three Ivy League teams in the top 20 LOL.
Southland will be screaming, Sam Houston should be top 10.
Will Patriot League scholarships start to have an impact? Not according to the early returns.
Strange to see Delaware grouped with some of the teams around them.
MVFC fans stay classy. The people you climb over on the way to the top are the same people you meet on the way back down. Let's enjoy this run.

[GonzoCat]

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When 9 of the top 22 teams in FCS are in the same conference you could make a pretty good case for that conference moving up as a unit to whatever level of football is going to be the second tier below the money5 conference level. I don't even know how many "other" FBS conferences there are, but I'd bet MVFC would fall pretty much in the middle of that group right now.

[vbfan19]

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When 9 of the top 22 teams in FCS are in the same conference you could make a pretty good case for that conference moving up as a unit to whatever level of football is going to be the second tier below the money5 conference level. I don't even know how many "other" FBS conferences there are, but I'd bet MVFC would fall pretty much in the middle of that group right now.

so they would spend alot more money but not really acheive any greater recognition

[vbfan19]

Re: Massey Preseason Poll

preseason polls/computer rankings aren't anything to get too worked up over, IMO.
I suppose its neat to see your school with a high ranking, but in reality it doesn't mean much of anything.

[UNIdad]

Re: Massey Preseason Poll

preseason polls/computer rankings aren't anything to get too worked up over, IMO.
I suppose its neat to see your school with a high ranking, but in reality it doesn't mean much of anything.

How did last year's preseason poll compare to the final results? I've tried a little and can't find last year's preseason poll. Does anybody else have it?

Of course, the comparison with last year's final rankings may be skewed by the imbalanced placement in the FCS playoffs.

[ronfitch]

Re: Massey Preseason Poll

Not sure how Massey does *their* poll. I have always been a bigger fan the the Massey *Composite* that ends up compiling a boatload of various polls and rankings into their composite (I dunno, maybe 25+ sources ... 30+? more?).

Roght now it is still under ten for the preseason composite, with UNI at number 4:

http://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm

[GonzoCat]

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so they would spend alot more money but not really acheive any greater recognition

I don't believe the P5 teams are going to want to only play games against each other nor do I believe the public's appetite for televised football can be met by only games within those conferences. Hence there will end up being more money for teams at the next level down both from buy games and TV. Recognition comes from TV. The teams in the third level down and below are going to really dry up. Of course the P5 schools are going to get the billion dollar TV contract, that's why they are moving in that direction, but there are going to be TV networks that can't afford to get in on that, but still want to show football games that fans could not really tell the difference in level of play if not for the uniforms. There are 65 P5 teams and another 63 FBS teams currently. If those 63 teams form a second level with another 30-60 teams the MVFC would be the logical first addition.

As for money spent I think that level will probably offer 68-70 scholarships, some additional cost for current FCS schools, significant savings for current non P5 FBS schools. The additional revenue should more than offset the cost.

Just a theory, I'm sure it will be easy to shoot holes in.