Question regarding play calling vs last season

[BCPanther]

Re: Question regarding play calling vs last season

The shift was primarily caused by Farley's reoccurring nightmares of Armanti Edwards from the NC game. Specifically, how to defend the guy. If only I had an Armanti Edwards...

The issue with that is that Edwards was one of 6 Appy State players drafted into NFL from that team (2008-2011). Drafted, not free agents. Those 3 NC Appy State teams were absolutely stacked.

This is 100% correct. Then Edwards beat Michigan and the die was cast.

[Khan4Cats]

Re: Question regarding play calling vs last season

Armanti Edwards did not play in the 2005 National Championship game, he was a freshman in 2006, beat Michigan in 2007, graduated in 2009.

[UNI92]

Re: Question regarding play calling vs last season

I love Aaron Baily as an athlete and think he is our most explosive player on the field. I'll go as far as saying that he may have a career in the NFL at another position. With that being said, based off of what I've seen the last 14 games, we can't win big games throwing at a 42% completion rate.
If Baily stays at QB, then the OC needs to give him some easier throws to backs, screen plays, deepen his drops in the pocket, use the TE, bubble screens, quick outs etc..
He's come a long way from last year but in my opinion if UNI is going to compete for the MVC title they are going to have to throw when we need to... not when we want to.

[claw]

Armanti Edwards did not play in the 2005 National Championship game, he was a freshman in 2006, beat Michigan in 2007, graduated in 2009.

Was waiting for someone to correct that. I believe it was Richie Williams in 05

[Trapped in California]

Re: Question regarding play calling vs last season

You are right about Richie Williams. I conflated the two players. Similar styles of play - the entire offense was built around the same style of QB play.

[ubuntuCAT]

Re: Question regarding play calling vs last season

I love Aaron Baily as an athlete and think he is our most explosive player on the field. I'll go as far as saying that he may have a career in the NFL at another position. With that being said, based off of what I've seen the last 14 games, we can't win big games throwing at a 42% completion rate.
If Baily stays at QB, then the OC needs to give him some easier throws to backs, screen plays, deepen his drops in the pocket, use the TE, bubble screens, quick outs etc..
He's come a long way from last year but in my opinion if UNI is going to compete for the MVC title they are going to have to throw when we need to... not when we want to.

There was at least a couple instances last week where are receivers certainly didn't help Bailey.

[SteinPizza]

Re: Question regarding play calling vs last season

The shift was primarily caused by Farley's reoccurring nightmares of Armanti Edwards from the NC game. Specifically, how to defend the guy. If only I had an Armanti Edwards...

The issue with that is that Edwards was one of 6 Appy State players drafted into NFL from that team (2008-2011). Drafted, not free agents. Those 3 NC Appy State teams were absolutely stacked.

You can go back farther to Tracy Ham and Georgia Southern playoff game. Farley would've played in that game. The guy was a nightmare to defend, tackle, chase down, etc. It was only several years later that the style of offense came back in vogue.

[Blue42]

Re: Question regarding play calling vs last season

I love Aaron Baily as an athlete and think he is our most explosive player on the field. I'll go as far as saying that he may have a career in the NFL at another position. With that being said, based off of what I've seen the last 14 games, we can't win big games throwing at a 42% completion rate.
If Baily stays at QB, then the OC needs to give him some easier throws to backs, screen plays, deepen his drops in the pocket, use the TE, bubble screens, quick outs etc..
He's come a long way from last year but in my opinion if UNI is going to compete for the MVC title they are going to have to throw when we need to... not when we want to.

I'd have to agree. The biggest difference between UNI and NDSU the last few years is they have a much more effective passing game than us.

Perhaps their special teams have been better. But the passing game is the biggest gap.

[SteinPizza]

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I'd have to agree. The biggest difference between UNI and NDSU the last few years is they have a much more effective passing game than us.

Perhaps their special teams have been better. But the passing game is the biggest gap.

Agreed. They've had better QBs, and the whole thing seems to fit together better for them. That not solely the fault of Rennie, Carnes, Bailey, Kollmorgan, etc. There have been some sub par receiver groups involved, not to mention the O line. The O line is the key to the whole thing to begin with.

More so, I'm not a big fan of the read option offense. Plenty of coaches who know more about football than I would beg to differ, since there's a bunch of teams running a variation of it. It just puts you at a disadvantage against defenses who have equal or better talent than you do, and if you don't execute near flawlessly, forget it.

[ubuntuCAT]

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Agreed. They've had better QBs, and the whole thing seems to fit together better for them. That not solely the fault of Rennie, Carnes, Bailey, Kollmorgan, etc. There have been some sub par receiver groups involved, not to mention the O line. The O line is the key to the whole thing to begin with.

More so, I'm not a big fan of the read option offense. Plenty of coaches who know more about football than I would beg to differ, since there's a bunch of teams running a variation of it. It just puts you at a disadvantage against defenses who have equal or better talent than you do, and if you don't execute near flawlessly, forget it.

No matter what the offense it's hard to not be predictable when there is very little threat through the air.

Seems like NDSU has had great punting game also... even when they get stopped they are able to shift field position around.