BEAR Week circa 2016

[Pant8her]

Well a long time ago in a land not so far away this use to be a big game.

It may be again, the Bears are definitely better than the last couple of seasons and the Panthers seem to be waning from our lofty expectations.

Thoughts, on this game?

Last week I was down in Springfield MO and watched most of the MSU game against WIU. Both the Bears and Leathernecks looked pretty good. However the defenses are a little suspect to the pass (so no worries on for them against UNI). The offenses were again similar and seemed well balanced which kept the defense honest that likely led to the defenses looking weak.

I will predict a close Panther victory and we actually close the game out.

Go PANTHERS

Keep the Faith

[claw]

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Wgaff?

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[Panburger Partner]

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Wgaff?

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My feelings exactly....of course we will probably see the same frustrating movie once again, where UNI goes on a tear at the end of the season, only to fall short of the playoffs and make it seem as if Farley actually knows what he is doing

[BCPanther]

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They're just lucky that the Indians wrapped up the ALCS early. It would have been Game 7 Saturday night pushing the Cubs to a 3 PM start. Dome would have been EMPTY.

We probably win, but I'm just not going to invest myself in it. I'll wander in when I wander in. Do you think we'll score an offensive touchdown this week??

[Born-a-Panther]

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Wgaff?

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I get the frustration, and I'm not sugar coating anything but I am getting a little worn out from the extremism of negativity on here. Let's keep in mind that it's not just coaches that are impacted. There are student athletes working very hard to represent UNI in a positive way on and off the field.

We will be there loud and proud. Let's get it Panthers.

[UNIdad]

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Wgaff?

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Apparently you do gaff since you don't seem miss an opportunity to share your ff.

During the season, I see two choices: 1) Cheer for the Panthers. 2) Don't cheer for the Panthers. I choose the former.

There are plenty of threads for you to gripe about what you don't like, but how about leaving the threads about the game alone?

[BCPanther]

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I get the frustration, and I'm not sugar coating anything but I am getting a little worn out from the extremism of negativity on here. Let's keep in mind that it's not just coaches that are impacted. There are student athletes working very hard to represent UNI in a positive way on and off the field.

We will be there loud and proud. Let's get it Panthers.

I get where you're at, I do.

However, its really hard to invest time and energy into something when you already know what the ultimate end is. The only way that change happens is to be vocal about it and use what little power most of us have to make whatever impact we can. An empty Dome sends a message that the fan base isn't going to put up with mediocrity.

I get the budget concerns, but you can't say out of one side of your mouth 'anywhere, anybody, anytime' and 'we expect to compete with everybody' and then out of the other side say 'well, the Dakotas came in and they have more money than we do to recruit areas that we used to recruit so we can't expect to compete for titles anymore'.

Farley has as much talent as any other program in the country but isn't able to use it in a way to consistently beat teams that he's better than. It's maddening and long, long overdue for a major overhaul. Dunbar 'resigned' after 4 years of the program not being relevant. Farley is getting a giant pass because he's a UNI guy, he hasn't been relevant since 2009, 7 years ago!

There have to be changes, not necessarily Farley, in order to inject some life into the fan base and get money rolling in again. I fear with an abysmal home schedule next year (Cal Poly, South Dakota, Youngstown, Indiana State, Western Illinois) that we're going to have a mass exodus of season ticket holders and no community interest. It's a bad, bad deal.

EDIT: Mods feel free to move this out of the game thread. Not meaning to muck up the game thread

[TravelingPanther]

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I think the crowd will be ugly tomorrow, but my family will be there. We also plan on coming back from the South Dakota State game, but if this keeps up that one might be tough to stomach.

[Pant8her]

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Wgaff?

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Clearly you must care otherwise you would not make such statement using a vulgar acronym.

While almost every one is frustrated with the losses that have occurred, should not mean that you do not support the team and students.

Just a little fact the total points in the four losses is 15 points, which is not too shabby considering the level of competition in most of these games (EWU, Montana, and YSU all in the top 20 nationally). So if you want to be upset I can clearly understand, but UNI still have three more nationally ranked teams to play (NDSU, WIU, and SDSU). If you want to abandon the team go ahead and be a fair weather fan. If UNI wins out the rest of the regular season UNI will limp into the playoffs and probably make it a round or two. Do you know how many schools would like to have the luxury of doing this year in and year out? (answer quite a few) I am not satisfied with just getting into the playoffs; I want these UNI teams to win the FCS Championship like all of our fans.


So if the Panthers win out they will be 7-4 and will have beaten three top 20 teams and a FBS (Big 12) team in the process and have losses to three top 20 teams with a five game winning streak to end the regular season. If they only win one or two more games this season so be it, come and enjoy the fellowship with your Panther family and support your school.

I definitely agree with BAP, so I will continue to drive 6 hours to see this team play at home for the rest of the season.

Take this season and build on it.

God bless.

[UNIdad]

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I get where you're at, I do.

However, its really hard to invest time and energy into something when you already know what the ultimate end is. The only way that change happens is to be vocal about it and use what little power most of us have to make whatever impact we can. An empty Dome sends a message that the fan base isn't going to put up with mediocrity.

I get the budget concerns, but you can't say out of one side of your mouth 'anywhere, anybody, anytime' and 'we expect to compete with everybody' and then out of the other side say 'well, the Dakotas came in and they have more money than we do to recruit areas that we used to recruit so we can't expect to compete for titles anymore'.

Farley has as much talent as any other program in the country but isn't able to use it in a way to consistently beat teams that he's better than. It's maddening and long, long overdue for a major overhaul. Dunbar 'resigned' after 4 years of the program not being relevant. Farley is getting a giant pass because he's a UNI guy, he hasn't been relevant since 2009, 7 years ago!

There have to be changes, not necessarily Farley, in order to inject some life into the fan base and get money rolling in again. I fear with an abysmal home schedule next year (Cal Poly, South Dakota, Youngstown, Indiana State, Western Illinois) that we're going to have a mass exodus of season ticket holders and no community interest. It's a bad, bad deal.

An empty Dome sends no constructive message!

Be careful what you ask for. For instance, look at Kinnick. Fans started leaving two years ago and at the beginning of last year and they had trouble bringing them back, even while going 12-0.

There are many better ways to express your concerns. And all of them are strengthened by actually showing up for games.

[BCPanther]

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An empty Dome sends no constructive message!

Be careful what you ask for. For instance, look at Kinnick. Fans started leaving two years ago and at the beginning of last year and they had trouble bringing them back, even while going 12-0.

There are many better ways to express your concerns. And all of them are strengthened by actually showing up for games.

Oh, I'll be there, however, we are so dependent on being good to draw crowds that allowing this to go too far with the results we are getting could be absolutely disastrous.

[DomeIsHome]

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Isn't this family weekend? I think it'll be a little bit fuller than some are predicting, especially in the first half

[Born-a-Panther]

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Clearly you must care otherwise you would not make such statement using a vulgar acronym.

While almost every one is frustrated with the losses that have occurred, should not mean that you do not support the team and students.

Just a little fact the total points in the four losses is 15 points, which is not too shabby considering the level of competition in most of these games (EWU, Montana, and YSU all in the top 20 nationally). So if you want to be upset I can clearly understand, but UNI still have three more nationally ranked teams to play (NDSU, WIU, and SDSU). If you want to abandon the team go ahead and be a fair weather fan. If UNI wins out the rest of the regular season UNI will limp into the playoffs and probably make it a round or two. Do you know how many schools would like to have the luxury of doing this year in and year out? (answer quite a few) I am not satisfied with just getting into the playoffs; I want these UNI teams to win the FCS Championship like all of our fans.


So if the Panthers win out they will be 7-4 and will have beaten three top 20 teams and a FBS (Big 12) team in the process and have losses to three top 20 teams with a five game winning streak to end the regular season. If they only win one or two more games this season so be it, come and enjoy the fellowship with your Panther family and support your school.

I definitely agree with BAP, so I will continue to drive 6 hours to see this team play at home for the rest of the season.

Take this season and build on it.

God bless.

Very, very well said.

[SteinPizza]

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I get the frustration, and I'm not sugar coating anything but I am getting a little worn out from the extremism of negativity on here. Let's keep in mind that it's not just coaches that are impacted. There are student athletes working very hard to represent UNI in a positive way on and off the field.

We will be there loud and proud. Let's get it Panthers.

You bring up a good point, but my spin on it is different than the optimism you seem to have above. If people are going to rip anyone here, they should be blasting the coaches, adminstration, BoR, etc. They're paid professionals, and that's part of the program with accepting a public job like college coaching, AD, or being a Regent. The athletes are college kids after all. Most here have been pretty good about that, and nothing wrong with being critical while being civil. The professionals though...little different deal.

[claw]

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I get the frustration, and I'm not sugar coating anything but I am getting a little worn out from the extremism of negativity on here. Let's keep in mind that it's not just coaches that are impacted. There are student athletes working very hard to represent UNI in a positive way on and off the field.

We will be there loud and proud. Let's get it Panthers.

I'm on record, many times, wanting to make sure nothing I say is aimed at the players. It's not.

At this point what is there to be positive about? Yes, our defense is outstanding. It never isn't. It's another season of seeing the coaching staff completely mismanage the roster. Mismanage games. Mismanage everything. It's another year of starting off with a losing record.

I've grown tired of the "Don't give up on the team, remember they started 2-4 last year too". That means the same exact stuff is happening this year and it's not being addressed. At this point, there's no positive spin to put on it.

Apparently you do gaff since you don't seem miss an opportunity to share your ff.

During the season, I see two choices: 1) Cheer for the Panthers. 2) Don't cheer for the Panthers. I choose the former.

There are plenty of threads for you to gripe about what you don't like, but how about leaving the threads about the game alone?

Vulgar.....Grow up

I get where you're at, I do.

However, its really hard to invest time and energy into something when you already know what the ultimate end is. The only way that change happens is to be vocal about it and use what little power most of us have to make whatever impact we can. An empty Dome sends a message that the fan base isn't going to put up with mediocrity.

I get the budget concerns, but you can't say out of one side of your mouth 'anywhere, anybody, anytime' and 'we expect to compete with everybody' and then out of the other side say 'well, the Dakotas came in and they have more money than we do to recruit areas that we used to recruit so we can't expect to compete for titles anymore'.

Farley has as much talent as any other program in the country but isn't able to use it in a way to consistently beat teams that he's better than. It's maddening and long, long overdue for a major overhaul. Dunbar 'resigned' after 4 years of the program not being relevant. Farley is getting a giant pass because he's a UNI guy, he hasn't been relevant since 2009, 7 years ago!

There have to be changes, not necessarily Farley, in order to inject some life into the fan base and get money rolling in again. I fear with an abysmal home schedule next year (Cal Poly, South Dakota, Youngstown, Indiana State, Western Illinois) that we're going to have a mass exodus of season ticket holders and no community interest. It's a bad, bad deal.

EDIT: Mods feel free to move this out of the game thread. Not meaning to muck up the game thread

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Clearly you must care otherwise you would not make such statement using a vulgar acronym.

While almost every one is frustrated with the losses that have occurred, should not mean that you do not support the team and students.

Just a little fact the total points in the four losses is 15 points, which is not too shabby considering the level of competition in most of these games (EWU, Montana, and YSU all in the top 20 nationally). So if you want to be upset I can clearly understand, but UNI still have three more nationally ranked teams to play (NDSU, WIU, and SDSU). If you want to abandon the team go ahead and be a fair weather fan. If UNI wins out the rest of the regular season UNI will limp into the playoffs and probably make it a round or two. Do you know how many schools would like to have the luxury of doing this year in and year out? (answer quite a few) I am not satisfied with just getting into the playoffs; I want these UNI teams to win the FCS Championship like all of our fans.


So if the Panthers win out they will be 7-4 and will have beaten three top 20 teams and a FBS (Big 12) team in the process and have losses to three top 20 teams with a five game winning streak to end the regular season. If they only win one or two more games this season so be it, come and enjoy the fellowship with your Panther family and support your school.

I definitely agree with BAP, so I will continue to drive 6 hours to see this team play at home for the rest of the season.

Take this season and build on it.

God bless.

Build on what? That continued failure to close out tight games? Did you read the article that was written on AnyGivenSaturday and see the stat about UNI in close games? I'll quote it for you

ince 2008 UNI is 25-36 in one score games. That’s not good. In games decided by a field goal, or less, UNI is 5-11.

Oh, that was written before we lost a one score game again so the number is now 25-37 and 5-12. As a fan base we are really damn good about bragging about how close we get to beating good teams and trying to spin that as proof we are good.

I'm glad you're happy with 7-4 at UNI and praying or an at-large bid so we can be shipped to Fargo or Missoula in the second round. We can paint more playoff years on our wall but continue to never add a title while going "member how close we were in 05?"

An empty Dome sends no constructive message!

Be careful what you ask for. For instance, look at Kinnick. Fans started leaving two years ago and at the beginning of last year and they had trouble bringing them back, even while going 12-0.

There are many better ways to express your concerns. And all of them are strengthened by actually showing up for games.

Completely false. As fans there are a small number of things we can do to enact change - 1. Publicly state displeasure to put pressure on someone. 2. Stop going to games to show we are serious when we say that we aren't freaking happy with where things are going. 3. Stop donating.

I'm not advocating for number 3, but at this point something needs to change and actually showing the coaches and administration something helps that process. Iowa State, to their fans credit, continue to buy into hype every year for football and buy tickets like crazy. Well, then they continue to suck but still buy tickets. What message does the AD get? Yeah, we aren't good and people aren't happy but they are still shelling out thousands upon thousands of dollars every year. You're not "impacting" them. True change isn't made until the system is actually impacted.

You bring up a good point, but my spin on it is different than the optimism you seem to have above. If people are going to rip anyone here, they should be blasting the coaches, adminstration, BoR, etc. They're paid professionals, and that's part of the program with accepting a public job like college coaching, AD, or being a Regent. The athletes are college kids after all. Most here have been pretty good about that, and nothing wrong with being critical while being civil. The professionals though...little different deal.

Exactly, as I said earlier - this is all about Mark Farley/Bill Salmon and their egos of being unwilling to actually fix what's broken.

Harris is new in town. He needs to know that UNI fans are serious when we say "This isn't good enough and we will prove it to you".

I hope the players play well. I hope they stay healthy. I will support the players through the season. The staff has given me no reason to watch. I already know exactly what's going to happen this week. I can call 90% of the plays that will be run right now. So yes, WGAFF about this coaching staff until something actually changes. I see no reason to go out of my way to give UNI extra money to get to games, to "show support" for what Farley is doing right now by showing up. Consider it a protest. Consider this my "kneeling for the anthem". The best way to enact change and start a conversation is a peaceful protest. I'm protesting everything about the administrations decisions regarding football right now (not fair to Harris as he's new, I get that).