BEAR Week circa 2016

[pantherfansince92]

Re: BEAR Week circa 2016

Well, Allen will be sitting out the first half next week after the targeting call, dumb play by him

[95UNIGRAD]

Re: BEAR Week circa 2016

Bush league play by Allen. You're up by 40 and you're taunting your opponent. He won't get to play the first half of next week, and he's crowing about it.

[mwatje]

Re: BEAR Week circa 2016

Did anyone see the targeting foul on TV? Was it legit? It was not replayed in the dome. The refs said the "Targeting foul will stand" rather than "Targeting foul is confirmed." Doesn't that imply a lack of evidence? If so- you would think a "targeting will stand" call should not result in an ejection the way a "Targeting foul confirmed" would.

[panther1]

Re: BEAR Week circa 2016

Like I said, Dunne has looked really good today. I just think better play-calling is the main reason our offense has looked better. And Dunne is the better option for this type of playcalling. But all of the Bailey bashing is just unnecessary. He could have been really good had he been put in the position to succeed, but the offense we ran earlier this year was not utilizing what he does well. We were calling long developing PA passes with a subpar OL, which no QB would be able to do well.

Have you noticed that we have yet to put Malloy at WR and putting him in motion, faking a jet sweep and have him stand in the flat 5 yards behind the line? We'd run that play 10 times a game with Bailey at QB, and it usually didn't work since by the time the PA fake happened, there was usually a pass rusher in the backfield. Malloy has pretty much played exclusively at RB today.

No one is upset with Bailey, it's on the coaches who plays. Many just felt that Dunne is/was a better option.

[panther1]

Re: BEAR Week circa 2016

Did anyone see the targeting foul on TV? Was it legit? It was not replayed in the dome. The refs said the "Targeting foul will stand" rather than "Targeting foul is confirmed." Doesn't that imply a lack of evidence? If so- you would think a "targeting will stand" call should not result in an ejection the way a "Targeting foul confirmed" would.

It was a dumb play.

[Gboom23]

Re: BEAR Week circa 2016

I must not understand targeting. That seems to be an extremely loose definition - he didn't lead with his head and he didn't even hit the other player in the head. Very bad call in my opinion.

[95UNIGRAD]

Re: BEAR Week circa 2016

Did anyone see the targeting foul on TV? Was it legit? It was not replayed in the dome. The refs said the "Targeting foul will stand" rather than "Targeting foul is confirmed." Doesn't that imply a lack of evidence? If so- you would think a "targeting will stand" call should not result in an ejection the way a "Targeting foul confirmed" would.

He didn't hit him helmet-to-helmet but he clearly put a forearm right into his face to knock him backwards. The ball was overthrown; totally unnecessary. The fact that he was taunting afterwards with a 40 point lead didn't help his case to stay in the game either.

[95UNIGRAD]

Re: BEAR Week circa 2016

I must not understand targeting. That seems to be an extremely loose definition - he didn't lead with his head and he didn't even hit the other player in the head. Very bad call in my opinion.

He absolutely hit him in the head; let's be honest. Just because it wasn't delivered with the crown of his helmet doesn't mean he didn't target his head. Dumb play by Allen.

[Gocats15]

Re: BEAR Week circa 2016

Did anyone see the targeting foul on TV? Was it legit? It was not replayed in the dome. The refs said the "Targeting foul will stand" rather than "Targeting foul is confirmed." Doesn't that imply a lack of evidence? If so- you would think a "targeting will stand" call should not result in an ejection the way a "Targeting foul confirmed" would.

Yes, it was not a helmet to helmet hit, but it could be considered forcible contact to the neck or head on a defenseless WR. Allen went shoulder into the WR's helmet. It was a borderline call, and typically borderline calls are called. Then he goes and gets in the WR's face and starts jawing.

[Trapped in California]

Re: BEAR Week circa 2016

Allen hit him with the shoulder pad in the chest right below the facemask. it was a 50/50 call - the taunting certainly didn't help his case.

[Trapped in California]

Re: BEAR Week circa 2016

I think this should be the last series for Dunne. No need for him to roll an ankle, etc up 40.

[panther1]

Re: BEAR Week circa 2016

I must not understand targeting. That seems to be an extremely loose definition - he didn't lead with his head and he didn't even hit the other player in the head. Very bad call in my opinion.

Hitting a defenseless receiver is also targeting, whether with a helmet or not.

[Trapped in California]

Re: BEAR Week circa 2016

Hitting a defenseless receiver is also targeting, whether with a helmet or not.

The problem with targeting is that it seems that no one can present a consistent definition. How many years into this and we are still attempting to understand the rule.

[Mudrafan]

Re: BEAR Week circa 2016

In case you forgot, we were up 28-0 at halftime against these guys last year with Bailey at QB. This game is not a good way to measure offensive progress.

You don't get it do you?

[Gboom23]

Re: BEAR Week circa 2016

Hitting a defenseless receiver is also targeting, whether with a helmet or not.

If this is true then I don't have a problem with the call. I though this was simply a personal foul penalty (without getting kicked out of the game).

As to the other poster - now I want to see another replay because to me it looked like Allen gave him a forearm to the shoulder.