What changes need to be made?

[06panther10]

Re: What changes need to be made?

I dont't even blink at this stuff anymore. Doesn't matter, we know what we have and what we are going to get.

Every year we have 2-3 coaches come and go, and every season we have the same crap offense and the same dysfuntion with the coaches and players.

[SteinPizza]

Re: What changes need to be made?

I dont't even blink at this stuff anymore. Doesn't matter, we know what we have and what we are going to get.

Every year we have 2-3 coaches come and go, and every season we have the same crap offense and the same dysfuntion with the coaches and players.

The only way the scheme/philosophy dramatically changes is with a change at the top. In situations like this, calling for the head of the offensive coordinator kind of misses the point. In that regard, Iowa and UNI are in the same boat.

I doubt you'll see any pro set type offense from UNI next year, but it would only take a few changes in mindset of the coaches to go back to the style of play calling when Kolmorgan was QB. Just make sure the O line is as solid as you can make it.

[Panther'73]

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Assistant FB coaches coming and going is like a swinging door every year. Interesting that the other sports staffs have been solid for 10+ years...

[panthergirl123]

Re: What changes need to be made?

The continuous changing of coaches is probably due to several things:

1) what UNI is willing to pay coaches....which by their recent ad seems low.
2) coaches hired are just using UNI job as a resume filler.
3) they don't like direction of program.
4) they don't like Farley....due to his leadership style being controlling or anal retentive.

[Panburger Partner]

Re: What changes need to be made?

The continuous changing of coaches is probably due to several things:

1) what UNI is willing to pay coaches....which by their recent ad seems low.
2) coaches hired are just using UNI job as a resume filler.
3) they don't like direction of program.
4) they don't like Farley....due to his leadership style being controlling or anal retentive.

All valid points, however I think if the department took care of items #3 and #4, then items #1 and #2 would not be an issue

[claw]

Re: What changes need to be made?

2 and 4 are the only issues.

Believe it or not, UNI has been incredibly spoiled by the continuity of our staff - in all sports. Assistants jump around spot to spot like crazy trying to build a resume, make contacts and build their connection tree to find a bigger/better job, etc... Go read the bios of our current assistants and see how often they've jumped. Go look at assistants that have left here and see how many stops they had before and even since. The average stay for an assistant at the FCS level is about 2 years.

Here's an article on it: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...s-pay/3987289/

I found another article that looked at the history of head coaches in the FBS - the SEC school with the longest average tenure of a head coach was Florida at 5.1 years. If head coaches are averaging 3-4 years I'd say getting 2, maybe 3, out of assistants for an average is pretty damn good.

Assistants leaving doesn't worry me. 99% will leave because it's what assistants do. 1% will leave because of Farley. Maybe it gets closer to 10%, but it's not as many as you'd think. That being said them "not liking Farley" still is a "bigger reason" than points 1 and 3. Assistants, outside of those tied directly to the HC, don't really care about the direction of a program, unless it's criminal.

The coaching profession isn't like the rest of the world. There isn't long standing continuity at 99% of places. UNI has been incredibly spoiled to have football coaches stick around as long as they have - even more so in volleyball and basketball. It's the rare exception, not the rule.

[UNIdad]

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I found another article that looked at the history of head coaches in the FBS - the SEC school with the longest average tenure of a head coach was Florida at 5.1 years. If head coaches are averaging 3-4 years I'd say getting 2, maybe 3, out of assistants for an average is pretty damn good.

I have heard stats like this before. How can any recruit and his family take seriously a coach's claim that he will be there for the duration of the kid's college career? This is relevant for head coaches, but even more relevant for the assistant coaches who are the ones who build the relationships with the recruits. The stats are pretty clear that the coaches who recruit you will be gone before you graduate. And that means that if you stay, you are now dealing with the recruits of a new coaching regime.

Personally, I wish they had a salary cap for coaching staffs. It would keep the head coach salaries within reason. And let a head coach build a team of assistants who would stay together. There may be all sorts of practical reasons why this wouldn't work, but something needs to be done. The escalation of head coaching salaries is not sustainable or healthy for programs.

[SteinPizza]

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I have heard stats like this before. How can any recruit and his family take seriously a coach's claim that he will be there for the duration of the kid's college career? This is relevant for head coaches, but even more relevant for the assistant coaches who are the ones who build the relationships with the recruits. The stats are pretty clear that the coaches who recruit you will be gone before you graduate. And that means that if you stay, you are now dealing with the recruits of a new coaching regime.

Personally, I wish they had a salary cap for coaching staffs. It would keep the head coach salaries within reason. And let a head coach build a team of assistants who would stay together. There may be all sorts of practical reasons why this wouldn't work, but something needs to be done. The escalation of head coaching salaries is not sustainable or healthy for programs.

A cap won't stop assistants from moving, and it's not legal to limit job movement. There is a cap on the number of full time assistants in FBS at least. One cap that's been proposed but not passed is a cap on football support staff.

[UNIdad]

Re: What changes need to be made?

A cap won't stop assistants from moving, and it's not legal to limit job movement. There is a cap on the number of full time assistants in FBS at least. One cap that's been proposed but not passed is a cap on football support staff.

The escalation of head coaching salaries is resulting in escalation of assistant coach salaries which only fuels the movement. I'm not necessarily trying to limit anyone from moving or trying to pad their resumes, but the movement seems to come too frequently. I thought maybe a cap of total salaries (I think they already have a cap on positions) might help.

[UNIPanther007]

Re: What changes need to be made?

He gone....http://www.wkusports.com/sports/m-fo...123016aab.html

[PurpleCatFan]

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I really thought this would be a good place for Ryan but something did not work out for him to leave this soon

[Blue42]

Re: What changes need to be made?

I really thought this would be a good place for Ryan but something did not work out for him to leave this soon

A higher paying job with a former colleague?

C'mon now...not everything's a scandal in the UNI football offices.

[Blue42]

Re: What changes need to be made?

I read an article this fall that Kurt Warner served as offensive coordinator for his son's high school football team. Sounds like they threw it all over the place but had no O-Line.

Also know Kurt's son is a college football prospect looking for a home. All time leader in receptions in state of Arizona...but apparently not real fast. One offer from Univ. of San Diego.

How bout bringing Kurt in to call the offense for the next 4 years with his son playing a little WR? Greatest Show on Turf comes to the UNI Dome. Now that would be fun. Not sure we could match his contract from NFL Network. :>

(Of course I know this has as much chance of happening as NDSU dropping football...but would make for an interesting rumor.)

[ronfitch]

Re: What changes need to be made?

The escalation of head coaching salaries is resulting in escalation of assistant coach salaries which only fuels the movement. I'm not necessarily trying to limit anyone from moving or trying to pad their resumes, but the movement seems to come too frequently. I thought maybe a cap of total salaries (I think they already have a cap on positions) might help.

Yes, there is a cap on the number of assistant coaches in FBS (10) and some assistant coaches are now getting into the millions for salary. But there are also many with lots of "staff" in addition to that cap of ten official assistants.

[claw]

Re: What changes need to be made?

I read an article this fall that Kurt Warner served as offensive coordinator for his son's high school football team. Sounds like they threw it all over the place but had no O-Line.

Also know Kurt's son is a college football prospect looking for a home. All time leader in receptions in state of Arizona...but apparently not real fast. One offer from Univ. of San Diego.

How bout bringing Kurt in to call the offense for the next 4 years with his son playing a little WR? Greatest Show on Turf comes to the UNI Dome. Now that would be fun. Not sure we could match his contract from NFL Network. :>

(Of course I know this has as much chance of happening as NDSU dropping football...but would make for an interesting rumor.)

That would require Kurt giving up his NFL network gig, though I'd take it.

The "offer" from San Diego isn't an "offer" either. They can't give athletic scholarships.