Klieman to Minnesota?

[Panburger Partner]

Re: Klieman to Minnesota?

This whole fiasco will have lingering effects if not handled quickly. I don't know and honestly don't care how much it costs for the buyout, but Farley needs to be gone immediately. If someone is aware of his current contract/buyout situation, I'd be very interested to know. First opportunity for David Harris to really make a name for himself by bringing in a new regime and delivering a message that this kind of crap is unacceptable at this university.

[SteinPizza]

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This whole fiasco will have lingering effects if not handled quickly. I don't know and honestly don't care how much it costs for the buyout, but Farley needs to be gone immediately. If someone is aware of his current contract/buyout situation, I'd be very interested to know. First opportunity for David Harris to really make a name for himself by bringing in a new regime and delivering a message that this kind of crap is unacceptable at this university.

Realistically, you'll need a few more consecutive seasons like this past year for Farley to be under serious pressure. Also, UNI will ALWAYS have assistants leaving for FBS jobs. It's the nature of that profession.

[Panburger Partner]

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I'm not concerned with asst coaches leaving for better jobs, that is the nature of their profession and something that will never go away. I am concerned with a mass exodus and those coaches telling recruits that their offers are pulled. Just one sign that Farley has completely lost control of his staff and the program as a whole.

[UNIdad]

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I would love to be able to overhear the conversations between David Harris and the big UNI football donors.

[SteinPizza]

Re: Klieman to Minnesota?

I'm not concerned with asst coaches leaving for better jobs, that is the nature of their profession and something that will never go away. I am concerned with a mass exodus and those coaches telling recruits that their offers are pulled. Just one sign that Farley has completely lost control of his staff and the program as a whole.

He can't control someone after they leave. What makes you think he could've stopped this before it started?

[95UNIGRAD]

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He can't control someone after they leave. What makes you think he could've stopped this before it started?

Agreed. Go ahead and criticize the record or the close losses or the bull-headed sticking with a running QB for so long, but how is he supposed to control some rogue coach with no ethics after they leave?

[Panburger Partner]

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Valid point that he cannot directly control a coach after they leave, but one thing he can control is the way he works with them while they are here, and don't give them any reason to trash the program if/when they do leave. Treat asst's with some respect, let them do their jobs, and have some control over their position group and I'm guessing that when they move on they will be much less likely to pull any stunts like what just happened.

[UNIPanther007]

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Well 007, that was a pretty depressing post. I'm guessing that you have some personal experience (or sources with personal experience) that may be flavoring your post a bit.

Having been a season tickets holder and UNI fan for over 35 years I would hope I have some sort of personal experience. Over the years I have gotten to know many coaches that have come and gone along with some of their family members and current and former players etc...I by no means claim to be a know-it-all but lets be transparent...all problems still lead back to the head man no matter where we want to slice it or push blame.

Does anyone know for sure that Barkema was let go? If so, my question here is why now? Why wouldn't Farley have made staff changes a month or so ago when most of the coaching changes were occurring so we could actually get other quality coaches on board? I understand the people leaving for better opportunities and good for them for wanting out of this toxic culture. Now all were going to get is anyone who hasn't already settled on a job elsewhere, a GA from another school or someone else who was let go late in the game. My two favorite coaches on staff this past season besides good ol' Salmon were Lynch and Barkema...mostly because of the energy and passion they showed on the sidelines and the relationships they had with their players.

This whole "scholarship being pulled" nonsense is just one more thing we didn't need as a program. Although this kind of thing happens all the time in various programs...better kids showing interest this close to signing day...money is shifted around to get the best teams possible...like it or not. My guess is Farley did tell the assistant who recruits Minnesota, Danielson, to pull it because he changes his mind all the time....and then when it hit social media he didn't want any heat so he called the kid himself and again threw others under the bus. No matter how it went down it's not a good look for the program and hopefully we don't have any more situations like this.

[claw]

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Having been a season tickets holder and UNI fan for over 35 years I would hope I have some sort of personal experience. Over the years I have gotten to know many coaches that have come and gone along with some of their family members and current and former players etc...I by no means claim to be a know-it-all but lets be transparent...all problems still lead back to the head man no matter where we want to slice it or push blame.

Does anyone know for sure that Barkema was let go? If so, my question here is why now? Why wouldn't Farley have made staff changes a month or so ago when most of the coaching changes were occurring so we could actually get other quality coaches on board? I understand the people leaving for better opportunities and good for them for wanting out of this toxic culture. Now all were going to get is anyone who hasn't already settled on a job elsewhere, a GA from another school or someone else who was let go late in the game. My two favorite coaches on staff this past season besides good ol' Salmon were Lynch and Barkema...mostly because of the energy and passion they showed on the sidelines and the relationships they had with their players.

This whole "scholarship being pulled" nonsense is just one more thing we didn't need as a program. Although this kind of thing happens all the time in various programs...better kids showing interest this close to signing day...money is shifted around to get the best teams possible...like it or not. My guess is Farley did tell the assistant who recruits Minnesota, Danielson, to pull it because he changes his mind all the time....and then when it hit social media he didn't want any heat so he called the kid himself and again threw others under the bus. No matter how it went down it's not a good look for the program and hopefully we don't have any more situations like this.

We don't know when Barkema was let go. As a 35 year season ticket holder I'd expect you know how secretive the program is. For all we know he's been gone for a while and a search has been going on for some time for his replacement.

If you'll remember he picked up his second DUI in about 3 years during the 2015 season, and that didn't set well with Farley at all. He was suspended and faced further "sanctions" internally after that. From what I have heard Farley and Barkema didn't get along and had about zero relationship. I've heard it may stem from Barkema not "letting go" of his Iowa State interests (he played his college ball there). As I've done some digging Barkema left Iowa State after that DUI and was supposed to be hired at an NAIA school in Kansas but that hire fell through due to the DUI, so he ended up at Missouri State.

Just because news of him being let go is just starting to roll out doesn't mean it "just happened". I think that's something we all, including myself, need to remember. It's also possible he's still on staff, though given what I've heard I'd be shocked if that was the case.

As I said earlier, it's interesting to look at twitter and see who has stayed relatively active with UNI news on twitter. Even guys like Lynch were retweeting all of the UNI news for guys like Hall, Dorleant, Schult, etc... up until just a few days ago. Barkema has been on radio silence with UNI related anything since December 6th. Could mean nothing, but I wouldn't bet on that.

The coach I'm interested in hearing about is Klein. Haven't heard any whispers about the Air Force thing since the initial news. I'm half wondering if he's going to end up staying at UNI.

[UNIPanther007]

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We don't know when Barkema was let go. As a 35 year season ticket holder I'd expect you know how secretive the program is. For all we know he's been gone for a while and a search has been going on for some time for his replacement.

If you'll remember he picked up his second DUI in about 3 years during the 2015 season, and that didn't set well with Farley at all. He was suspended and faced further "sanctions" internally after that. From what I have heard Farley and Barkema didn't get along and had about zero relationship. I've heard it may stem from Barkema not "letting go" of his Iowa State interests (he played his college ball there). As I've done some digging Barkema left Iowa State after that DUI and was supposed to be hired at an NAIA school in Kansas but that hire fell through due to the DUI, so he ended up at Missouri State.

Just because news of him being let go is just starting to roll out doesn't mean it "just happened". I think that's something we all, including myself, need to remember. It's also possible he's still on staff, though given what I've heard I'd be shocked if that was the case.

I agree that we may not know all the inner working however I hope he is on staff knowing who is still "for sure" there. If the DUI or relationship with Farley was that big of an issue I highly doubt Farley would have even brought him back this year. If he is gone then Barkema is just the latest scape goat for all of this past seasons problems...just like how we all are quick to bring his personal issues up or blame him for the scholarship "miscommunication" To be fair nobody has a "relationship" with Farley outside the absolute necessary daily communication....everyone on staff hates him.

[Superninja80]

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looking at the UNI athletics website, everything looks up to date.
Here is the line up it shows:

Mark Farley Head Coach
Bill Salmon Associate Head Coach/Running Backs
Nick Danielson Tight Ends/Offensive Tackles
Collin Klein Quarterbacks
Jeremiah Johnson Defensive Coordinator/Linebackers
Olaitan Oguntodu Safeties Coach
D.J. Hord Director of Football Operations

Now if others are on their way out or staying for another season is unknown, but this seems to be the up to date current staff.

http://unipanthers.com/roster.aspx?path=football#coaches_anchor

[claw]

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looking at the UNI athletics website, everything looks up to date.
Here is the line up it shows:

Mark Farley Head Coach
Bill Salmon Associate Head Coach/Running Backs
Nick Danielson Tight Ends/Offensive Tackles
Collin Klein Quarterbacks
Jeremiah Johnson Defensive Coordinator/Linebackers
Olaitan Oguntodu Safeties Coach
D.J. Hord Director of Football Operations

Now if others are on their way out or staying for another season is unknown, but this seems to be the up to date current staff.

http://unipanthers.com/roster.aspx?p...coaches_anchor

They must have just done that as yesterday the full staff was shown. Makes me wonder if the AD is catching on to what is being said here, and social media, regarding who is/isn't on staff and is clearing things up. As well as updating it for recruits to see who is still "able" to speak on behalf of the program.

Seems pretty clear that Barkema is gone and the rumors of firing are likely true.

Salmon may have planned on retiring but that may be on hold for a year, or due to the way his contract works it may not be official for a while so he's going to stay "on staff" through recruiting season. I wouldn't be shocked if he stays on staff in a reduce "quality control" type role.

Klein and Oguntodu are the "shockers". As I said, the longer the news of Klein and Air Force has drug on the more I think he stays and sees and increased role. It could also be guessed that Oguntodu saw a "promotion" following Lynch leaving that isn't "finalized" yet so he's still listed as safties.

[UNIdad]

Re: Klieman to Minnesota?

looking at the UNI athletics website, everything looks up to date.
Here is the line up it shows:

Mark Farley Head Coach
Bill Salmon Associate Head Coach/Running Backs
Nick Danielson Tight Ends/Offensive Tackles
Collin Klein Quarterbacks
Jeremiah Johnson Defensive Coordinator/Linebackers
Olaitan Oguntodu Safeties Coach
D.J. Hord Director of Football Operations

Now if others are on their way out or staying for another season is unknown, but this seems to be the up to date current staff.

http://unipanthers.com/roster.aspx?p...coaches_anchor

I'm confused. I thought we lost almost all of our coaches. Does this just mean that several departures are not yet official? Or might some of the rumors be unsubstantiated?

At any rate, this list looks much better for the race to the recruiting finish line. It would help even more if there were some tweets about where the coaches are and who they are recruiting each day.

[claw]

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I'm confused. I thought we lost almost all of our coaches. Does this just mean that several departures are not yet official? Or might some of the rumors be unsubstantiated?

At any rate, this list looks much better for the race to the recruiting finish line. It would help even more if there were some tweets about where the coaches are and who they are recruiting each day.

Some may be unsubstantiated rumors, some may not be official yet. Klein and Oguntudo fit that mold right now. It could also be that they planned on leaving, but UNI came back with an upgraded contract offer. I have a feeling Klein very well may have been on the way out but UNI offered something. Why I think that? I don't know. It's just a gut feeling. For Oguntodu, Lynch leaving may have leveraged him into a promotion that isn't "final" yet.

Salmon is/was/did retire....or planned too.

That would leave just Johnson, Danielson and Farley - the rumored only 3 left.

The thing about UNI football staffing changes is that if you know who to listen too, even if it's still "just a rumor", you learn pretty quick what's true and what isn't. That isn't to say things don't change in the process and coaches don't change their minds and stay, but some reading between the lines that is "perfected" after years of learning who to believe when they say things has lend much credibility to the idea that the staff was left nearly empty, or was/is in the process of happening.

[ronfitch]

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I'm confused. I thought we lost almost all of our coaches. Does this just mean that several departures are not yet official? Or might some of the rumors be unsubstantiated?

At any rate, this list looks much better for the race to the recruiting finish line. It would help even more if there were some tweets about where the coaches are and who they are recruiting each day.

Confirmed departures:

Mahaffey (to FBS Western Kentucky University, about three weeks ago)

https://wku.rivals.com/news/tops-add-paul-mahaffey-as-tight-ends-coach

Paup (to FBS/Big Ten U of Minnesota, about a week ago)

http://www.thegazette.com/subject/sports/college/football/report-uni-football-assistant-coach-bryce-paup-leaving-for-minnesota-20170113

Lynch (to FBS East Carolina, a few days ago)

http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/ecu-hires-brandon-lynch-as-defensive-backs-coach/

That was updated within the past 24 or so hours (Paup and Lynch were still listed there a day or so ago).

Born-A-Panther posted here a few days ago that Barkama is gone ... in my time on this board, if BAP posts something here, pay attention. And she posted around the same time that Johnson was still with UNI. The website update reflects what she posted.