Future Schedules

[BCPanther]

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I am talking about the people in town. We obviously aren't going to pull people from Iowa City.

It gives people a chance to grab something to eat and get to the Dome...

[GonzoCat]

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If you move it back to a night game you might lose 500 fans from Polk County who don't like getting home from a FB game after 1:00 in the morning. Also all the students (50%?) who leave at halftime to get to the hill by 7:00 won't show at all.

No easy answer I guess, but I don't like setting our game time to cater to the Iowa/ISU fans. I thought everyone but me watched TV on their cell phones now anyway.

[UNI83]

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If you move it back to a night game you might lose 500 fans from Polk County who don't like getting home from a FB game after 1:00 in the morning. Also all the students (50%?) who leave at halftime to get to the hill by 7:00 won't show at all.

No easy answer I guess, but I don't like setting our game time to cater to the Iowa/ISU fans. I thought everyone but me watched TV on their cell phones now anyway.

The students who would rather go to the hill won't be there regardless because they will all head to the Iowa/ISU game to tailgate and drink.

[JD720]

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Is there any concern we may lose some of the Iowa State games in the future if the B12 goes to a 9 game schedule? I think our games are ones they would prefer to keep as we are probably perceived (in their minds, not mine) as the weakest opponent/easiest win in most years. However, it may come down to what games are the cheapest to buy out.

[Panthers to the Bone]

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I can't see ISU dropping the UNI series. It's the most financially lucrative for them. Our game, if they win it, counts as any other game for them.

[Casey'sitsallgood]

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I don't see much reason for ISU to drop our series. They pay a second-rate price to bring us in, we fill the stadium, and more often than not, they will win the game. It's basically a win-win situation for them.

[JayJ79]

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Is it really "second rate"?
I know everyone is convinced that UNI should be getting 3 million dollars for each and every FBS game, since there have been a couple of instances of the really big-name programs paying really high amounts to fill their schedule. But I'm not convinced that EVER money game brings in that amount. Though of course, if there was enough data available I would certainly be convinced. (but I haven't seen that data)

[jegbomb52]

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Is it really "second rate"?
I know everyone is convinced that UNI should be getting 3 million dollars for each and every FBS game, since there have been a couple of instances of the really big-name programs paying really high amounts to fill their schedule. But I'm not convinced that EVER money game brings in that amount. Though of course, if there was enough data available I would certainly be convinced. (but I haven't seen that data)

Your exagerating way too much. There is no one on this board that has said that UNI should be making 3 million per game. No one here has said that UNI should be getting 1 million per game. UNI should be getting a minimum of $400,000 per game, you can count on one hand how many teams accept less than $400,000 for a game against a BCS caliber team. For some reason we continue to be one of those teams. ISU's money is second rate. And, we ARE one of those big names. The difference between us and a Montana or App State is that we are jumping out of our seats to play ISU and Montana / App St are sitting back waiting for a hot date to the dance. Meanwhile we are lip locked with the fat girl in the corner. Our problem isn't ISU, our problem is our AD consistently putting us behind the 8 ball.

[JayJ79]

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The difference between us and a Montana or App State is that we are jumping out of our seats to play ISU and Montana / App St are sitting back waiting for a hot date to the dance. Meanwhile we are lip locked with the fat girl in the corner.

Well that, and they average 24K in attendance per home game (as opposed to our 13K), so they can be a bit pickier.

[jegbomb52]

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Well that, and they average 24K in attendance per home game (as opposed to our 13K), so they can be a bit pickier.

That is a very valid point. However, can you think of one year that UNI has been left out in the cold when they didn't play Iowa or ISU? Nope, they have always had people knocking down the door last minute paying above standard "cupcake" game prices. K-State, BYU, Boise State, Oklahoma State, even our Ball State game was a profitable venture (there is a quite a story behind that which includes hundreds of thousands of dollars coming from the University of Michigan program). Every year schools like Nebraska, Texas Tech, Texas A& M are paying good money for games against Stephen F, Montana State, etc... (which are schools who average way less per game than we do) just because they wait and don't commit themselves.

[UNIAlum95]

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That is a very valid point. However, can you think of one year that UNI has been left out in the cold when they didn't play Iowa or ISU? Nope, they have always had people knocking down the door last minute paying above standard "cupcake" game prices. K-State, BYU, Boise State, Oklahoma State, even our Ball State game was a profitable venture (there is a quite a story behind that which includes hundreds of thousands of dollars coming from the University of Michigan program). Every year schools like Nebraska, Texas Tech, Texas A& M are paying good money for games against Stephen F, Montana State, etc... (which are schools who average way less per game than we do) just because they wait and don't commit themselves.

The only problem I have with your position is in all of these cases, these teams have to fly in to play these teams. That's what, 100K-200K to charter and stay? Factor that in and I don't think our payday is that far off.

[jegbomb52]

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The only problem I have with your position is in all of these cases, these teams have to fly in to play these teams. That's what, 100K-200K to charter and stay? Factor that in and I don't think our payday is that far off.

It takes a trip to a coast for UNI to stay overnight. Farley doesn't even let the team spend the night when flying to Utah. So scratch that expense. A round trip flight is going to cost approximately $50-$75K depending on where you stay. Other than that everything is the same (buses, meals, tickets, etc...) $350K in Ames is not going to be better than $520K in Lubbock TX, no way, no how. Spend the night, spend $100K in travel expenses. You are still profiting $70K on the deal.

[BCPanther]

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Also, the price of charter flights has actually come down in the last 18 months right along with fuel costs...

[Panther-Sheik]

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It takes a trip to a coast for UNI to stay overnight. Farley doesn't even let the team spend the night when flying to Utah. So scratch that expense. A round trip flight is going to cost approximately $50-$75K depending on where you stay. Other than that everything is the same (buses, meals, tickets, etc...) $350K in Ames is not going to be better than $520K in Lubbock TX, no way, no how. Spend the night, spend $100K in travel expenses. You are still profiting $70K on the deal.

Not so sure about this from what I have heard. It would be a good question to ask the A.D. directly at some point, though, just to clear it up since it seems to be a recurring topic. I had heard that the BYU game didn't net nearly what people think it "should have" and that ISU is a much better net deal for UNI. Also, I think the added exposure of playing in state games is a good thing that will hopefully help build the fan base and equate to more dollars long term. The year we played BYU I can't tell you how many people had no clue that UNI was even playing, and there was very little interest outside of the true UNI faithful.

[Panther AC]

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It takes a trip to a coast for UNI to stay overnight. Farley doesn't even let the team spend the night when flying to Utah. So scratch that expense. A round trip flight is going to cost approximately $50-$75K depending on where you stay. Other than that everything is the same (buses, meals, tickets, etc...) $350K in Ames is not going to be better than $520K in Lubbock TX, no way, no how. Spend the night, spend $100K in travel expenses. You are still profiting $70K on the deal.

Sorry Jeg but you are incorrect about the BYU game. We made a family trip to Utah to watch the game and stayed at the team hotel in downtown Salt Lake City. The five adults in our group went to a local night spot nearby on Friday night and in fact three of the assistant coaches came in later after their team meetings. So they did have a significant overnight expense which reduced the "profit" from that game.