Future Schedules

[Khan4Cats]

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I'm a little disappointed in some of you for being up in arms about UNI students, who make a large time commitment to their school as volunteers, having the opportunity to go to in-state games and being able to support the football team.

These students have an absolute blast at these games and the PMB made my experience all the more bearable being able to sing my fight song in a seas of black and gold and not look like a total idiot. Denying these students only one or two short trips each season would be a bit hypocritical to the mission of extra-curricular activities at UNI.

I understand the gripe as it is taking $ away from our overall payment from U of I and therefore athletics but considering the fact that the music programs no longer draw from the same pot as athletics nowadays, its not as big of an issue in my mind. The fact that they have no perceived impact on the game is a weak argument in my opinion.

They can make it to a football game 90 miles away but can't make it to the McLeod for the first half of the basketball season.

I bet they'll be able to find a way down to Des Moines for the Big 4 give the city fo Des Moines some more money doo-dah, though.

[Cat80]

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I also believe we can make double what ISU is paying us the next 2 trips without doubling cost.

I have a problem with something....

I am going to guess that UNI drove down to IC Saturday morning, obviously drove back after the game. The only cost was bus, meals, and equipment transport. For approximately 120 people (those not dressing for the game were taken, and given a front row seat behind the bench).

There were more members of the band, and spirit squads there than the football program itself. Also requiring a 4 or so buses, equipment transport, and a couple of meals.

I would venture a guess that the trip cost more for our band and our spirit squads than the football team itself. I promise you that came from Iowa's payday check.

THIS IS NOT OKAY!!!! My gameday experience in IC would have not been one iota different without spirit squads, or our band. When we play at Purdue, we would not incur these expenses. Something to think about.

Totally disagree. My game day experience WAS enhanced by the presence of the UNI band. It was interesting to see the two bands and how they compare to each other. BTW, UNI's band is now in the same category as Iowa's IMO, even though they use totally different styles of marching. Dannen even mentioned in Madison that he asked Wisconsin if UNI could bring the band to Camp Randall and was turned down. If AD Dannen is asking opponents if we can bring the band, it must not negatively affect the bottom line that much.

[jegbomb52]

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Totally disagree. My game day experience WAS enhanced by the presence of the UNI band. It was interesting to see the two bands and how they compare to each other. BTW, UNI's band is now in the same category as Iowa's IMO, even though they use totally different styles of marching. Dannen even mentioned in Madison that he asked Wisconsin if UNI could bring the band to Camp Randall and was turned down. If AD Dannen is asking opponents if we can bring the band, it must not negatively affect the bottom line that much.

if it enhanced your experience thats fine, I can't say I didn't like hearing the fight song myself. I did. They also add a nice cheering section. That being said, if it cost us $15,000 to bring the band and spirit squads and that money comes directly out of the paycheck from Iowa its just not worth it. Our athletic program is in danger. Our board of regents has threatened pulling funding. If you ask me, that $15,000 could be better used other places.

[Kyle]

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It probably cost less than $2,500 to get our band and spirit squads to IC.

I was in band for one year during my time at UNI and during our trip to Ames all UNI provided was transportation. We packed lunch and one of the ISU band frats provided us with water during the game.

[jegbomb52]

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It probably cost less than $2,500 to get our band and spirit squads to IC.

I was in band for one year during my time at UNI and during our trip to Ames all UNI provided was transportation. We packed lunch and one of the ISU band frats provided us with water during the game.

Band and Spirit squads probably took 4 buses. Probably a 10 hour deal start to finish. Maybe $2,000 a bus. Don't think Iowa didn't make us pay for the tickets either where the band sat.

[Cat80]

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if it enhanced your experience thats fine, I can't say I didn't like hearing the fight song myself. I did. They also add a nice cheering section. That being said, if it cost us $15,000 to bring the band and spirit squads and that money comes directly out of the paycheck from Iowa its just not worth it. Our athletic program is in danger. Our board of regents has threatened pulling funding. If you ask me, that $15,000 could be better used other places.

I know we'll never get together on this, but not being able to pay for the band to go to Iowa City is a symptom of the f*&^over suffered by UNI over the years, not a cause. If it cost $15,000 for 5 buses or so to IC, then I'm in the wrong business. If we knew the exact cost and who paid for it, we could have a legitimate discussion. This is just conjecture and opinion. And my opinion is I very much enjoyed the band at Kinnick. Would that change if I knew the cost? Maybe/maybe not.

[ubuntuCAT]

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I know we'll never get together on this, but not being able to pay for the band to go to Iowa City is a symptom of the f*&^over suffered by UNI over the years, not a cause. If it cost $15,000 for 5 buses or so to IC, then I'm in the wrong business. If we knew the exact cost and who paid for it, we could have a legitimate discussion. This is just conjecture and opinion. And my opinion is I very much enjoyed the band at Kinnick. Would that change if I knew the cost? Maybe/maybe not.

Quick estimate on this site for 260 passengers puts the cost at $17k.

http://www.uscoachways.com/cost-calculator.php

Would we have seriously had to pay for their tickets also? If they got tix at half price that would still be another $7k.

[9YRPLAN]

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im glad weve started arguing about serious stuff.

[Hail Our Panthers]

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How about a serious discussion on the band uniforms. In my opinion, they look ridiculous

[9YRPLAN]

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link to any non-ridiculous band uniforms?

[unipanthers8907]

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But they do have no impact on the game. Why don't they raise funds for the trip? (perhaps they do, I'm not sure). Seems wrong to sell out the football team for 2 BCS games and then not spend the money wisely.

Worth consideration IMO

Except for when they are playing too loud for our offense to hear the play calls and we have to burn our timeouts

[Hail Our Panthers]

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link to any non-ridiculous band uniforms?

good point, there's a certain level of ridiculousness in every band's uniforms. Not necessarily bad looking, but somewhat goofy. The cowboy hats and the high white pants that make everybody look fat. I know I'm not the only one who thinks so, but maybe our group is smaller than I thought. That said I love having the band at games, they're often the best fans in the dome/Mcleod

[W50677]

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I know we'll never get together on this, but not being able to pay for the band to go to Iowa City is a symptom of the f*&^over suffered by UNI over the years, not a cause. If it cost $15,000 for 5 buses or so to IC, then I'm in the wrong business. If we knew the exact cost and who paid for it, we could have a legitimate discussion. This is just conjecture and opinion. And my opinion is I very much enjoyed the band at Kinnick. Would that change if I knew the cost? Maybe/maybe not.

I know for a fact that the UNI band took five buses to get to Iowa City, to transport 260 kids - the largest band numbers in history.

The buses were roughly $750 each. THE BAND PAID for the entire trip to Iowa City, including buses, two meals, etc - there were no funds from the athletic department. The day started at 8:45am and they returned to campus around 9pm.

The band pays their own transportation/meals to ISU football games as well.

I also know for a fact that when the U of Iowa band travels with the team, the expenses are covered by the athletic department.

[jegbomb52]

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I will assume based upon it being your first post that you logged on specifically for that reason, thus your numbers must be accurate. Thank you for sharing. It does shed some much needed light on the subject. That seems pretty cheap for a 48 passenger bus for 12 hours. Does the company receive any sort of gift in kind acknoledgement through UNI for offering those low rates?

Seems odd that Iowa pays for their band to travel. Guess you can do that when you have drones of fans who went to Kirkwood Community College donating 10% of their salary to the AD.

[9YRPLAN]

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good point, there's a certain level of ridiculousness in every band's uniforms. Not necessarily bad looking, but somewhat goofy. The cowboy hats and the high white pants that make everybody look fat. I know I'm not the only one who thinks so, but maybe our group is smaller than I thought. That said I love having the band at games, they're often the best fans in the dome/Mcleod

theres a reason that everyone in band looks fat. its not the uniforms.