Panthers vs Cyclones Game Thread

[clenz]

Interesting note...UNI's roster in this week's game notes lists 100 players.

66 are freshman, red shirt freshman or sophomores. 34 are Jr & Sr's.

Yup.

I noticed that last year with how many the number of young guys playing. Only got younger this year.

IIRC from looking last week there are 21 OL and something like 16 of them are freshman (RS or true) and sophomores. The average size of those is like 6'5 301 too.

I think last year we saw the result of Farley not knowing what he wanted to do with an offense and not being able to recruit for it finally come to it's head. He may have saw it coming for a year or two before even based on personnel and overall talent/results. While that was happening on the field he spent significant time trying to get just a ton of freshman in every year to rebuild the program.

[Khan4Cats]

Interesting note...UNI's roster in this week's game notes lists 100 players.

66 are freshman, red shirt freshman or sophomores. 34 are Jr & Sr's.

I guess I'm not too surprised by this. A lot of our players we bring in are on partial scholarships. If it doesn't look like they are going to crack the lineup after a redshirt year and into their freshman year, we tend to lose players. The juniors and seniors are the players who cracked into the lineup early or transferred in from FBS/juco. We don't see too many players spend three or four years on the sideline and then become a starter like Kurt Warner did (or Brett O'Donnell after him, or then Chris Berg, then Steve Beard).

[clenz]

I guess I'm not too surprised by this. A lot of our players we bring in are on partial scholarships. If it doesn't look like they are going to crack the lineup after a redshirt year and into their freshman year, we tend to lose players. The juniors and seniors are the players who cracked into the lineup early or transferred in from FBS/juco. We don't see too many players spend three or four years on the sideline and then become a starter like Kurt Warner did (or Brett O'Donnell after him, or then Chris Berg, then Steve Beard).

That's partially true, but the split is much more defined last year, this year and next (by default) than most previous years.

Quick look:
2014: 45 of 97 (46%) were upperclassmen - 27 jrs and 17 srs
2011: 38 of 87 (44%) were upperclassmen - 21 jrs and 17 rs - 34 freshman...this 34 freshman is the 27 jrs in 2014. So only 7 were lost.

This year 34% are upperclassmen.

It's probably a combination of normal attrition, attrition being worse due to the state of the program the last few years, and Farley going "Crap, this isn't working" and emphasizing getting youth in. We also had a stretch from 12-15 where we took a ton, by UNI standards, of FBS transfers. AFAIK we only took 1 this year.

[dan_beeding]

I was just glad to see VERY FEW option run plays (actually, none that I can think of). $.02.

[UNIdad]

I guess I'm not too surprised by this. A lot of our players we bring in are on partial scholarships. If it doesn't look like they are going to crack the lineup after a redshirt year and into their freshman year, we tend to lose players. The juniors and seniors are the players who cracked into the lineup early or transferred in from FBS/juco. We don't see too many players spend three or four years on the sideline and then become a starter like Kurt Warner did (or Brett O'Donnell after him, or then Chris Berg, then Steve Beard).

I didn't think football had partial scholarships. Did I miss something? Or are you just saying that we have a lot of guys who greyshirt?

[PantherFan]

I didn't think football had partial scholarships. Did I miss something? Or are you just saying that we have a lot of guys who greyshirt?

No partials in FBS. Can do partials in FCS.

[Purpledog]

I didn't think football had partial scholarships. Did I miss something? Or are you just saying that we have a lot of guys who greyshirt?

FBS programs are allowed 85 total scholarships, all 85 are full ride and can not be broken down to partial. FCS programs are allowed up to 63 scholarships , those 63 can be divided up in any way, but no more than 85 players can be out on any type of scholarship

[Purpledog]

Will Farley keep this offensive scheme involving passing the ball moving forward or do you think the pick 6's will rattle him to go back to read option, running style QB? From what I have read he is pretty high on the Freshman Keller who fits more of a running style offense over passing.

[95UNIGRAD]

Farley was on KXNO's morning show in Des Moines this morning. The feeling I got from him is that he was very impressed with how Dunne played (interceptions obviously aside). I don't think we're in any danger of seeing Rennie/Carnes 2.0 unless Eli gets hurt or throws a few pick-sixes every game.