UNIPanthers.com: "Dunne Named to CFPA POTY Watch List"

[ronfitch]

"Dunne Named to CFPA POTY Watch List

UNI football quarterback Eli Dunne has been named to the 2018 College Football Performance Awards FCS Performer of the Year Trophy Watch List.

The list includes 36 players from across the country, including six from the Missouri Valley Football Conference."

Entire read:

http://unipanthers.com/news/2018/8/20/football-dunne-named-to-cfpa-poty-watch-list.aspx

[sevelev711]

Man, I knew he was going to be pretty good for us, especially compared to what's been going on recently here for QBs, but I didn't realize that there was legitimate, nationwide hype for him (at the FCS level, of course).

Also, that's a great picture they used for him in the article.

[Purpledog]

That is awesome! Looks like with Bonds offense he will stretching the field more!! Going to be an exciting season, almost sounds to good to be true the way Farley has had that position under his control, Now we just hope he stays healthy, maybe last chance for a few years to make a deep run with the offense. Did anyone get to the scrimmage? I hear we might be going backwards after Eli, especially with the little guy from DesMoines, a lot of scrambling out of pocket and run passes.

[Blue42]

Very excited for the possibilities with Eli this year. He has the size, arm and experience to do things at QB we haven't seen in years.

I also would love to see him put up big numbers to get him a real shot at an NFL camp.

As for the future...I personally think McElvain might be the second coming of Eric Sanders and I do think he'll be the QB at some time soon after Eli's done.

[FOTY]

Very excited for the possibilities with Eli this year. He has the size, arm and experience to do things at QB we haven't seen in years.

I also would love to see him put up big numbers to get him a real shot at an NFL camp.

As for the future...I personally think McElvain might be the second coming of Eric Sanders and I do think he'll be the QB at some time soon after Eli's done.

If the second coming of ES is on the roster, sign me up!
Has the shine come off Keller? Farley has been excited about him since day zero for his running ability.

[clenz]

It's impossible to miss the gigantic....amounts of excitement, let's say....Farley has every time he mentions Keller

I've not heard great things about his passing ability from anyone who has seen a practice or scrimmage. Yet he seems to fit exactly what Farley has been trying to force into the program since Rennie stepped on campus.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see a bright QB future after Dunne is gone. I see more Carnes and Bailey than Sanders, Kollmorgen and Dunne.

[Purpledog]

I can’t tell if Blue42 was being sarcastic about McElvain and Sanders comparison?? Sanders could throw the ball, and throw it well, McElvain may be a good athlete but he is a mini-me of Bailey. More of a run first guy , leaves pocket way to early which won’t work at this level. I too have also heard despite the number one reps Keller still does not have a passing game especially beyond 7 yards, and finished towards the bottom of the QBs on the Pro skill drills. I see Ellsworth is back listed at QB, I haven’t heard anything about him or Sullivan? He had the best showing at the Spring Game, what happened to him?. ,,So it looks like This has to be the year with Eli!

[95UNIGRAD]

I'm so done if we go back to a running QB who can't throw next year. I just can't deal with that anymore.

[ronfitch]

I'm so done if we go back to a running QB who can't throw next year. I just can't deal with that anymore.

I suspect you are not alone.

[BCPanther]

It's impossible to miss the gigantic....amounts of excitement, let's say....Farley has every time he mentions Keller

I've not heard great things about his passing ability from anyone who has seen a practice or scrimmage. Yet he seems to fit exactly what Farley has been trying to force into the program since Rennie stepped on campus.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see a bright QB future after Dunne is gone. I see more Carnes and Bailey than Sanders, Kollmorgen and Dunne.

Nothing takes Mark Farley from six-to-midnight like the thought of a running quarterback.

[7YrsOfCollegeDownTheDrain]

First, I really look forward to seeing Eli this year now that he gets back to back years with the same QB coach and offensive system.

Second, I saw McElvain play last year and though he was a really nice player. Had to do a lot...almost everything for Lincoln. I'm really interested to see how he develops even if it's eventually somewhere other than quarterback. I tend to be in the camp that thinks he could stick at QB and think he has a lot of upside and could be a nice player for us.

I'm not sure this board would have been so high on Eric Sanders coming out of high school...great numbers but at a smaller school. Undersized, accurate thrower but average arm strength at best...not great measurables...no real offers or interest from bigger programs. Turns out he developed ok. Lets give these kids a chance to do the same thing.

I'm really looking forward to this season and those beyond. We have a lot of talent to work with and build from. Like always developing that talent is key.

[Blue42]

I can’t tell if Blue42 was being sarcastic about McElvain and Sanders comparison?? Sanders could throw the ball, and throw it well, McElvain may be a good athlete but he is a mini-me of Bailey. More of a run first guy , leaves pocket way to early which won’t work at this level. I too have also heard despite the number one reps Keller still does not have a passing game especially beyond 7 yards, and finished towards the bottom of the QBs on the Pro skill drills. I see Ellsworth is back listed at QB, I haven’t heard anything about him or Sullivan? He had the best showing at the Spring Game, what happened to him?. ,,So it looks like This has to be the year with Eli!

Blue42 doesn't kid about Panther QBs.

I really do think McElvain is gonna be a legit QB.

Remember boys...just cuz u can run it doesn't mean u can't throw it. Anybody see James Madison's QB when they won the title?

[clenz]

Blue42 doesn't kid about Panther QBs.

I really do think McElvain is gonna be a legit QB.

Remember boys...just cuz u can run it doesn't mean u can't throw it. Anybody see James Madison's QB when they won the title?

Nailed it.

No one is against a QB that can run but is a thrower first. The issue is forcing QBs that can't throw because they can run. It's forcing guys like Carnes, Rennie (who was at least average) or Bailey out there.

RG3, Johnny Manziel, Tim Tebow, etc. were all "runners", but they could throw the hell out of the ball.

Eric Sanders and Pat Grace could run if they needed. Grace used it more, but he clearly was a passer first.

The reason people worry about Keller is everything said about him coming out of HS was how great of an athlete he was. His film was 50/50 run/pass. The passes weren't really down field. They were quick one read routes near the LOS. Those routes were if the offense is 100% built around that. As we've seen with Rennie, Carnes and Bailey that doesn't happen. Deep routes are still run. Trees that require multiple reads, 5-7 step drops, etc. The commitment hasn't happen to a quick hit offense. Farley has just forced a quick hit QB into his mid/third level passing game.

Based on everything we've heard - combined with the limited amount we've been allowed to see of him - Keller is much closer to Bailey than Sanders/Grace. UNI fans are extremely gun shy on that - for good reason. We've now gotten to see the impact a quality QB has. We don't want to give that up. Call it a form of PTSD. My wife was in an accident going around a curve when she was in high school. To this day, 16 years later, she still tightens up and won't look (if she isn't driving) going around curves. Same thing with UNI fans and run first style QBs. We've been in that car when it crashed too many seasons now. Even if it will work just fine and that crash isnt' coming, the flinch and hatred of being in a situation that could result in that crash is a place we don't want to be.

I've long said I'm okay with a QB that can move. I want a QB that can move and run. If McElvain can run (and based on film he can) then perfect, as long as he is a pass first kid that uses his legs as an opportunity read rather than a natural instinct.

[ronfitch]

Nailed it.

No one is against a QB that can run but is a thrower first. The issue is forcing QBs that can't throw because they can run. It's forcing guys like Carnes, Rennie (who was at least average) or Bailey out there.

RG3, Johnny Manziel, Tim Tebow, etc. were all "runners", but they could throw the hell out of the ball.

Eric Sanders and Pat Grace could run if they needed. Grace used it more, but he clearly was a passer first.

The reason people worry about Keller is everything said about him coming out of HS was how great of an athlete he was. His film was 50/50 run/pass. The passes weren't really down field. They were quick one read routes near the LOS. Those routes were if the offense is 100% built around that. As we've seen with Rennie, Carnes and Bailey that doesn't happen. Deep routes are still run. Trees that require multiple reads, 5-7 step drops, etc. The commitment hasn't happen to a quick hit offense. Farley has just forced a quick hit QB into his mid/third level passing game.

Based on everything we've heard - combined with the limited amount we've been allowed to see of him - Keller is much closer to Bailey than Sanders/Grace. UNI fans are extremely gun shy on that - for good reason. We've now gotten to see the impact a quality QB has. We don't want to give that up. Call it a form of PTSD. My wife was in an accident going around a curve when she was in high school. To this day, 16 years later, she still tightens up and won't look (if she isn't driving) going around curves. Same thing with UNI fans and run first style QBs. We've been in that car when it crashed too many seasons now. Even if it will work just fine and that crash isnt' coming, the flinch and hatred of being in a situation that could result in that crash is a place we don't want to be.

I've long said I'm okay with a QB that can move. I want a QB that can move and run. If McElvain can run (and based on film he can) then perfect, as long as he is a pass first kid that uses his legs as an opportunity read rather than a natural instinct.

In short, the frustration was never with the players. Never. Lots of support here for them to succeed.

[clenz]

In short, the frustration was never with the players. Never. Lots of support here for them to succeed.

Exactly. I have had to point that out many times for my opinions on here and social media.

I take extra effort to ensure the kids are never the "victim" of my frustrations. They are 18-23 years old, busting their asses, to give me something to watch and talk about. They do as they are told. They do the best they can - most of the time...guys like Bailey really push the limit on that one.

The second a kid puts on a purple and yellow uniform I want nothing but success for them on and off the playing field, even if they transfer....with exceptions for kids who get into serious legal issues.