Beer this year? Survey Results

[DownGoesKansas]

I don't think I can argue with anything that has been said here but just to play devils advocate. If Men's Basketball wasn't in the middle of a very disappointing 3 year stretch and football wasn't in its current state I don't think we'd be having this conversation and I don't think anyone would point those two issue towards Harris and there is nothing he could do for either.

[clenz]

I don't think I can argue with anything that has been said here but just to play devils advocate. If Men's Basketball wasn't in the middle of a very disappointing 3 year stretch and football wasn't in its current state I don't think we'd be having this conversation and I don't think anyone would point those two issue towards Harris and there is nothing he could do for either.

Sure...he would have to look for less creative ways to engaged fans to get them too games or to stay at games. I will agree he's been "dealt a rough hand" with what the MBB/FB has done the last few years. However, basically what you said was

"If his job had the ideal situation for success and others did his job for him in regards to getting people to games/staying at games he wouldn't have to have people talk about it as much"

or

"He can only find ways to be successful if the main programs at his school are goo"

Which is, potentially true. I'd argue that schools that are bringing in 70k a week and winning are still having these same discussions/pressures on the AD. Look how often Barta is "forced" to talk about it. Or Pollard. Or any P5 AD.

This isn't unique to UNI. This isn't unique to schools struggling to draw fans in. This isn't unique to schools that aren't having high levels of success

To that point, I received confirmation this AM Jacksonville State is selling beer in stadium.

Jacksonville State gets about 1/3rd of what UNI does in donations to the athletic department. They have a total endowment of 12m as a university - which is 1/10th of UNIs. Yet they are top 10 in attendance yearly at over 20k, and their AD had to hear the same arguments and deal with the same pressures to keep fans there, to draw more fans still, and to find sources of revenue.


Is beer going to magically take UNI to a 30m athletic budget? No. Anyone that thinks it's going to cause a *significant* increase in revenue is relatively naive.

However, when you are struggling to keep the state from cutting funds to you. When you are fighting to keep revenue coming in. When you face what UNI - or many smaller universities do - it seems silly to dismiss alcohol sales as a source of revenue.

UNI isn't a person that can walk down the street, see a $100 bill on the ground and afford to pass it.

The revenue from selling beer for $5 a cup, the revenue from partnerships/sponsorship are the $100 bill.

In your life, my life, the majority of our lives is that $100 going to be life changing? No. Is it going to be something that can start to be invested elsewhere to help lighten strains? 100%


As Brett said - he came from Iowa State. He was under Pollard for a decade. While Pollard might be easy to poke fun at or find annoying, it's impossible to view him as anything but a massive success in almost every measurable area. The number of ISU fans that don't care for him, his actions, etc. has to be almost impossible small. For Harris to somehow have literally none of the and be the extreme polar opposite is interesting

[DownGoesKansas]

Sure...he would have to look for less creative ways to engaged fans to get them too games or to stay at games.

Basically what you said was

"If his job had the ideal situation for success and others did his job for him in regards to getting people to games/staying at games he wouldn't have to have people talk about it as much"

Which is, potentially true. I'd argue that schools that are bringing in 70k a week and winning are still having these same discussions/pressures on the AD. Look how often Barta is "forced" to talk about it. Or Pollard. Or any P5 AD.

This isn't unique to UNI. This isn't unique to schools struggling to draw fans in. This isn't unique to schools that aren't having high levels of success

To that point, I received confirmation this AM Jacksonville State is selling beer in stadium.

Jacksonville State gets about 1/3rd of what UNI does in donations to the athletic department. They have a total endowment of 12m as a university - which is 1/10th of UNIs. Yet they are top 10 in attendance yearly at over 20k, and their AD had to hear the same arguments and deal with the same pressures to keep fans there, to draw more fans still, and to find sources of revenue.


Is beer going to magically take UNI to a 30m athletic budget? No. Anyone that thinks it's going to cause a *significant* increase in revenue is relatively naive.

However, when you are struggling to keep the state from cutting funds to you. When you are fighting to keep revenue coming in. When you face what UNI - or many smaller universities do - it seems silly to dismiss alcohol sales as a source of revenue.

UNI isn't a person that can walk down the street, see a $100 bill on the ground and afford to pass it.

The revenue from selling beer for $5 a cup, the revenue from partnerships/sponsorship are the $100 bill.

In your life, my life, the majority of our lives is that $100 going to be life changing? No. Is it going to be something that can start to be invested elsewhere to help lighten strains? 100%

I'm not saying that was my opinion. Just saying....

[clenz]

I'm not saying that was my opinion. Just saying....

I understand. I was continuing the discussion from it. I should have clarified "you" as a larger sense of the word "you", not you specific

[06panther10]

I think it would be extremely unlikely that David Harris would not get a contract extension, assuming he wants to stay. UNI just does not operate like that. Barring a scandal or some really disastrous results, I would expect him to be back. He seems to be a good man, and has represented UNI very well.

Now, I am not sure of the typical timing of a contract extension for an AD, whether or not that is something that is normally done way before a contract is up or what. But I would be surprised if he were not extended.