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  • #16
    What was given out was a paper copy of this

    https://unipanthers.com/documents/20...Prospectus.pdf


    Which has apparently replaced the media guide.

    Also notice the massive typo on page one about conference titles.

    They were made aware of that - deleted the link from Twitter but didn't actually fix it apparently

    As I said, from what I understand the days of the full media guide at UNI are gone - at least for the foreseeable future. I know they have gotten pushback on that, so maybe that changes.

    But if they didn't have time to do it last year - which I was told by David Harris was the reason - they sure aren't going to have time this year to update the full media guide needing to add 2 years worth of stats to the historical rankings and what not
    Last edited by clenz; 08-19-2019, 04:23 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by clenz View Post
      What was given out was a paper copy of this

      https://unipanthers.com/documents/20...Prospectus.pdf
      On the site, that is what the link titled, "2019 Fall Camp Prospectus" lands on.

      Originally posted by clenz View Post

      Which has apparently replaced the media guide.

      Also notice the massive typo on page one about conference titles.

      They were made aware of that - deleted the link from Twitter but didn't actually fix it apparently

      As I said, from what I understand the days of the full media guide at UNI are gone - at least for the foreseeable future. I know they have gotten pushback on that, so maybe that changes.

      But if they didn't have time to do it last year - which I was told by David Harris was the reason - they sure aren't going to have time this year to update the full media guide needing to add 2 years worth of stats to the historical rankings and what not
      That is a shame. The media guides were full of historical information and photos.

      The Rod Library has a nice collection of the old media guides and press books for multiple sports:

      Athletics media guides from the University of Northern Iowa provide an impressive amount of information about University of Northern Iowa athletics teams. These guides typically present information about coaches and team rosters, payer descriptions, all-season won-lost records and lists of student athletes and the years in which they were lettered. The later guides include team, individual, and action photographs.



      "Well, that escalated quickly."

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      • #18
        It's not a surprise they aren't printing them, but I would think they could or would want to compile a digital version to make available.

        Does UNI follow suit with NDSU and other programs and name a QB1 this week and make it public?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by 7YrsOfCollegeDownTheDrain View Post
          Does UNI follow suit with NDSU and other programs and name a QB1 this week and make it public?
          I would be shocked if Farley announces before kickoff of Iowa State and probably not even then. He may not know it is legal to do so!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ronfitch View Post

            On the site, that is what the link titled, "2019 Fall Camp Prospectus" lands on.



            That is a shame. The media guides were full of historical information and photos.

            The Rod Library has a nice collection of the old media guides and press books for multiple sports:

            Athletics media guides from the University of Northern Iowa provide an impressive amount of information about University of Northern Iowa athletics teams. These guides typically present information about coaches and team rosters, payer descriptions, all-season won-lost records and lists of student athletes and the years in which they were lettered. The later guides include team, individual, and action photographs.


            Yup - the loss of historical records and stories lost is a major blow if the current administration does stop doing full media guides.

            The media guide is about so much more than returning players and stats. It's your historical document of your program. Even if what is printed is the prospectus, the guide is still a key piece of program history.

            If we get into this year without one we will have 3 years worth of records, stats, bios, etc. to update and put into a media guide. That is a MASSIVE amount of work required to do so and might be the final death nail into the idea of a media guide moving forward.

            Updating them for one year is a large project (adding 2017)
            Updating them for two years is an unbelievable project (adding 17 and 18)
            Updating them for 3 or more years is near impossible for time constraints for most any department.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by 7YrsOfCollegeDownTheDrain View Post
              It's not a surprise they aren't printing them, but I would think they could or would want to compile a digital version to make available.

              Does UNI follow suit with NDSU and other programs and name a QB1 this week and make it public?
              This week?
              No

              Next week?
              It's possible. For some strange reason out of all the years Farley could play the musical QB game and be stupid secret about it this year is THE year to do it, yet I don't think it happens this year.

              I don't know if it will be made official like NDSU did, but I'd guess the team knows - the most important part - and we can make pretty good assumptions on who it is

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              • #22
                Originally posted by DownGoesKansas View Post

                I would be shocked if Farley announces before kickoff of Iowa State and probably not even then. He may not know it is legal to do so!
                If we win the toss, he'll probably defer just to give himself more time to make the decision.

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                • #23
                  On August 12 at TC's Tailgate event at Jasper Winery in Des Moines, Farley announced he had made a decision on who the starting quarterback will be, although he didn't reveal his choice publicly.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Panther AC View Post
                    On August 12 at TC's Tailgate event at Jasper Winery in Des Moines, Farley announced he had made a decision on who the starting quarterback will be, although he didn't reveal his choice publicly.
                    Hint: It's Will....unless he is playing the most advanced level QB chess he's ever played

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by clenz View Post

                      Yup - the loss of historical records and stories lost is a major blow if the current administration does stop doing full media guides.

                      The media guide is about so much more than returning players and stats. It's your historical document of your program. Even if what is printed is the prospectus, the guide is still a key piece of program history.

                      If we get into this year without one we will have 3 years worth of records, stats, bios, etc. to update and put into a media guide. That is a MASSIVE amount of work required to do so and might be the final death nail into the idea of a media guide moving forward.

                      Updating them for one year is a large project (adding 2017)
                      Updating them for two years is an unbelievable project (adding 17 and 18)
                      Updating them for 3 or more years is near impossible for time constraints for most any department.
                      This is tragic and to be clear I wasn't asking for a glossy $20 printed guide. An online version is all that is needed but you are right, at this point putting it together seems impossible. The biggest loss in my mind was the player bios and having that all in one place.

                      In the future some poor intern is going to be given the task of recreating all of this...
                      Last edited by UNIAlum95; 08-20-2019, 10:21 AM.
                      If computers ruled college basketball the way they do football, we'd have skipped all this March Madness monotony and just waited a month for the Kansas-Kentucky title game. And watched Northern Iowa play Cornell in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl. ~ Dwight Perry The Seattle Times

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by clenz View Post

                        Hint: It's Will....unless he is playing the most advanced level QB chess he's ever played
                        Just an impression from the last 20 years, Mark isn't exactly playing 4D chess in any aspect of his life...

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by UNIAlum95 View Post

                          This is tragic and to be clear I wasn't asking for a glossy $20 printed guide. An online version is all that is needed but you are right, at this point putting it together seems impossible. The biggest loss in my mind was the player bios and having that all in one place.

                          In the future some poor intern is going to be given the task of recreating all of this...
                          I was that intern who wrote all the player bios back in the day. For a few years running. But - it wasn't overly labor intensive because for returning players, I could just add on to what had been written the previous years.
                          "...the Northern Iowa men's basketball team reached the ultimate highs before hitting a devastating low. Unexpected success, followed by unimaginable failure. And they owned it -- all of it -- for the world to see. Like men. Like leaders. Like champions -- in a way no tournament bracket could ever define."

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Born-a-Panther View Post

                            I was that intern who wrote all the player bios back in the day. For a few years running. But - it wasn't overly labor intensive because for returning players, I could just add on to what had been written the previous years.
                            Right but as soon as you stop doing it, files are lost, templates are changed, programs used to create are obsolete and you end up having to start from scratch.
                            If computers ruled college basketball the way they do football, we'd have skipped all this March Madness monotony and just waited a month for the Kansas-Kentucky title game. And watched Northern Iowa play Cornell in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl. ~ Dwight Perry The Seattle Times

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by UNIAlum95 View Post

                              Right but as soon as you stop doing it, files are lost, templates are changed, programs used to create are obsolete and you end up having to start from scratch.
                              They still do bios for the roster each year online. The bios aren't the hard part. Sure you'll have to copy paste and change format, and that will be tedious. However, that's the easy part

                              The real hard part is calculating all stats. Putting in each individual stat for the yearly totals, then career stats, team stats, single game highs, team records, season records, career records. That is a monumental task for one year. To do it for 2 or 3 or 4 plus years to catch up on a media guide is something no one is going to do. Which is why I believe if one isn't released this year we won't get one as long as Harris is AD, and pending how long he is here the new AD could be 5-10 years behind on it and the resources required to update and create a new one is just insane. That have to be the sole job of a small team of people for near a full year.

                              I haven't looked - but I wonder if other teams had media guides last year, and are getting them this year.

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                              • #30
                                I did some looking. The following teams ended up getting full media guides in 2018/2019

                                Volleyball
                                Men's Basketball
                                Both Track and Field - it doesn't have roster bios but it has everything else a full media guide would
                                Wrestling
                                Women's Soccer
                                Women's Softball - it doesn't have roster bios but it has everything else a full media guide would


                                The follow teams did not
                                Women's Basketball - I DON'T THINK THEY EVEN GOT A PROSPECTUS LAST YEAR. Maybe I missed it but the link is for the 17/18 media guide
                                Men's Cross County - don't think they've ever had one, but do have a yearly "prospectus"
                                Women's Cross County - don't think they've ever had one, but do have a yearly "prospectus"
                                Men's Golf - don't know that they've ever had one, but they do seem to have a yearly "prospectus"
                                Women's Golf - have yearly stats posted, but no historical stats seem to be archived - which the means does have limited archives
                                Swimming and Diving - historical stats, but not a media guide or prospectus
                                Tennis - literally nothing



                                The following teams have 2019/2020 media guides already posted
                                Football - the stripped down "prospectus"
                                Women's soccer - full media guide

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