*** Game 15 (Playoff Edition): @ James Madison ***

[Alum 99']

Farley has earned the right to say when??? WHY? fans that say that are why we are a program stuck in neutral...we should have multiple championships but still have none...The program decides when it needs a change not the coach...that's how good programs are run....now...if he had produced a couple championships then I may agree....but it's time to move on...his stubbornness has cost this program

[BCPanther]

Next year they should win the Valley. I see no reason to accept anything less.

Other than the 40,000 pound, incredibly well funded gorilla in North Dakota...

Until we give football a legitimate budget, this is what we're going to be. All the credit in the world to Farley for being this good on a Mid-Major basketball budget.

[Mudrafan]

You all need to relax - Will had an amazing season. He's a freshman and he'll continue to improve. He had the best passing season by a freshman in the MVFC and he did most of it playing with non starters...in a lot of cases...he did it with guys who couldn't crack the two deep if everyone is healthy. The Offensive line play needs to take a step forward. We need some dynamic guys to carry the ball.

That JMU defense is Elite. It's like playing our D...Elite edge rushers on the end and linebackers who are sure tacklers and close on players in space. That game went kind of like i expected...we needed turnovers that could flip the field and give our O a chance on a short field...we got some turnovers but other than the first fumble that somehow replay overturned so it's a non turnover, we got nothing that flipped field position.

This season was a success, and most of those guys are young. Lots to build from and lots to look forward too.

I know this is a message board so over-reaction and hyperbole are the norm. No one on that staff deserves to be fired. Lets enjoy this year for what it was and be thankful for the contributions that all of those seniors made.

Knew the injury/freshman/will improve post was coming. He won’t get taller, won’t get larger hands and will never be a pocket, play action, route tree , 3-5 sec drop timing route qb. He’s a rollout, improvisation, backyard, junkyard dog. Will rack up stats over a majority of teams but when the rubber hits the road against a top FCS defense and 28 points are needed or a game winning drive, not happening. Love his effort, his moxie and his game but he is a Farley special. Farley continues to want to win 6-3 when the rest of FCS has strong balanced teams that have no trouble scoring in the 20s against anyone and certainly have offensive identities

[Mudrafan]

[QUOTE=Yupster;n695700]

You all need to relax - Will had an amazing season. He's a freshman and he'll continue to improve. He had the best passing season by a freshman in the MVFC....

I don't want to get on here and criticize players. I think Will has some positives, and I do think we fail to take advantage of them, but he also has limitations. Mostly, I'd like to address this idea that he had "the best passing season by a freshman in the MVFC". He didn't even have the best passing season by a freshman in the MVFC THIS SEASON, Trey Lance did. For all of everyone's talk about how we run all of the time, Will had a lot of passing yards because we pass a lot compared to other teams, especially those with Freshman QBs. He completed 53% of his passes, putting him somewhere around 90th in FCS. Our offense converted 32% of 3rd downs, ranking us 103rd in FCS. Can he get better? Of course. Can the O-line and recievers help? Of course. But please stop saying he had a great season.

He also rarely throws the ball away when needed. He either scrambles or takes the loss instead of throwing away like most qbs

[Mudrafan]

You all need to relax - Will had an amazing season. He's a freshman and he'll continue to improve. He had the best passing season by a freshman in the MVFC and he did most of it playing with non starters...in a lot of cases...he did it with guys who couldn't crack the two deep if everyone is healthy. The Offensive line play needs to take a step forward. We need some dynamic guys to carry the ball.

That JMU defense is Elite. It's like playing our D...Elite edge rushers on the end and linebackers who are sure tacklers and close on players in space. That game went kind of like i expected...we needed turnovers that could flip the field and give our O a chance on a short field...we got some turnovers but other than the first fumble that somehow replay overturned so it's a non turnover, we got nothing that flipped field position.

This season was a success, and most of those guys are young. Lots to build from and lots to look forward too.

I know this is a message board so over-reaction and hyperbole are the norm. No one on that staff deserves to be fired. Lets enjoy this year for what it was and be thankful for the contributions that all of those seniors made.

And most of the criticism of the offense has to do with the past 10 years and not this game

[Waverly_Panther]

Our o-line hasn't been good since Walt Klink left. A good o-line coach can make a world of difference. Just look at how good our d-line is under Paup.

[Mudrafan]

[QUOTE=clenz;n695703]

Lance also got to play behind an OL that has allowed 10 sacks all season and like 7 QBH.

Turns out playing QB is probably easy when you have a neck wall in front of you.

I’m watching the Il St game and would beg to differ. Also, I’m positive 90% never played football beyond your backyard. You only need 3-5 seconds to get the football out. If it takes longer, then that’s on the qb. Him running around is on him. He does that because he doesn’t step up in the pocket. He doesn’t do that because he doesn’t have arm strength and two because he can’t see. He rolls to see and throw at an angle so strength is less of an issue

[Leatherhelmet]

Eli Dunne was 6-5, pro style pocket passer, explain why you theory didn’t work last year.

[Alum 99']

Other than the 40,000 pound, incredibly well funded gorilla in North Dakota...

Until we give football a legitimate budget, this is what we're going to be. All the credit in the world to Farley for being this good on a Mid-Major basketball budget.

Are you family? So your saying we have not had talent to win? That's crazy....we have had the talent just not the coaching.....you have David Johnson and give him 9...9 freaking touches in a game......you have a QB that cant pass but can run ok...he has bum ankle and you still play him over a proven starter...I could go on and on....Farley has been good yes...but he is the sole reason this team cant and wont take next step

[BCPanther]

Are you family? So your saying we have not had talent to win? That's crazy....we have had the talent just not the coaching.....you have David Johnson and give him 9...9 freaking touches in a game......you have a QB that cant pass but can run ok...he has bum ankle and you still play him over a proven starter...I could go on and on....Farley has been good yes...but he is the sole reason this team cant and wont take next step

Not family just realistic. I'm just not going to waste any more time calling for him to be fired when it's never, ever going to happen. It's not worth the energy. In fact, I'm guessing they get an extension done to 2025 this off-season to line his deal up with the AD and President.

[Mudrafan]

Our o-line hasn't been good since Walt Klink left. A good o-line coach can make a world of difference. Just look at how good our d-line is under Paup.

Not saying it’s great but I’m also saying we have issues on offense all over. Coaching. Style of offense, personnel, play calling, philosophy, etc. That about covers it

[Mudrafan]

Eli Dunne was 6-5, pro style pocket passer, explain why you theory didn’t work last year.

Because he couldn’t move at all. You only read the parts that fit your narrative which is how the world argues these days.

[run&blade]

Other than the 40,000 pound, incredibly well funded gorilla in North Dakota...

Until we give football a legitimate budget, this is what we're going to be. All the credit in the world to Farley for being this good on a Mid-Major basketball budget.

Farley had plenty of chances before NDSU arrived.

he has been at UNI long enough to win title.

uni has outstanding facilities for FCS.

If money is all that matter maybe Harris should just say we have no chance no matter what and have free admission and serve free juice boxes and sing camp fire songs on game day.

[UNIGrainer]

Farley had plenty of chances before NDSU arrived.

he has been at UNI long enough to win title.

uni has outstanding facilities for FCS.

If money is all that matter maybe Harris should just say we have no chance no matter what and have free admission and serve free juice boxes and sing camp fire songs on game day.

Free admission and juice box day would probably get a pretty big crowd.

[UNIGrainer]

So I was thinking about those two first half fumble calls this morning. I will preface this by saying JMU absolutely deserved to win, no doubt. Dominated statistically. Probably should have been worse than it was.

That said, does anyone who knows the rulebook better than me know what the refs saw on those two reviews? The one on the first play of the game looked to me that at worst the call should stand if not confirmed, and they reversed it. The second one where we fumbled seemed pretty clear that his arm hit the ground first......had a very good angle and shot of it......and they left it stand. Am I missing something?

The first one, there is a decent chance that leads to a field goal and we are up 3-0 to start......might have set a different tone. The second one was our most promising drive of the game cut short at midfield....could have at least changed the field position game.

If those calls are corrected is the outcome different? Probably not. But they were crucial calls and I don't know how they made them. I would feel better if someone could give me a good explanation as to why they got them right.