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[TH1974]

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On the other hand, maybe we don't want to schedule Iowa. We'd be better off looking to schedule a Wisconsin, Marquette, Minnesota, Illinois, Kansas, Kentucky, etc. When Iowa was a marquee team, it made for good competition. Maybe it's in UNI's best interest to look elsewhere for games too. It would improve UNI's position. Let Iowa play whoever they want. UNI is an evolving program. 20 years ago, we needed a game with Iowa. I don't think we do anymore. It generates great fan interest in the state, as shown in this morning's Des Moines Register, but if Iowa wants out, let 'em out.

Good luck getting any of those teams to do a home-and-home.

[9YRPLAN]

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it nearly impossible anymore. thats why i said before that drake and UNI are fortunate to have the current setup.

[UNIDadx3]

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Things are changing as the so-called mid-majors keep improving. Bradley hosted Michigan State last night.

[AmesPanther]

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What did Bradley agree to for that game? Bradley gave ISU 2 to get 1. I think there are a few Big 10/12 teams that would give UNI a home game in exchange for 2 home games.

UNI currently has a 1 for 1 with ISU/Iowa. I don't see any Big 10/12 team doing that.

[GonzoCat]

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Why are Iowa and ISU willing to play each other home and away if all they want to schedule is home games with cupcakes?

[AmesPanther]

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Why are Iowa and ISU willing to play each other home and away if all they want to schedule is home games with cupcakes?

I'd say because both have bad teams that they think will get better. So they both think they have a shot to win.

HyVee has all the CyHawk advertising.

It's Big 10 vs. Big 12. So if they win it's hey we beat a Big x team and if they lose it's well it was a Big x team.

It will draw well for both of them. ISU has been sold out for Saturdays game and that's with both teams being bad. It's a battle for last place in the state and will still draw 15,000.

ISU scheduled Minnesota with a 1 for 1. It's really pretty similar.

[BryceC]

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What did Bradley agree to for that game? Bradley gave ISU 2 to get 1. I think there are a few Big 10/12 teams that would give UNI a home game in exchange for 2 home games.

UNI currently has a 1 for 1 with ISU/Iowa. I don't see any Big 10/12 team doing that.

ISU didn't do a 2 for 1 with Bradley. ISU played Bradley at Wells, and went on to play Bradley on their home court. This is one of the reasons the "capital city classic" was cancelled.

[CincyPanther88]

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What did Bradley agree to for that game? Bradley gave ISU 2 to get 1. I think there are a few Big 10/12 teams that would give UNI a home game in exchange for 2 home games.

UNI currently has a 1 for 1 with ISU/Iowa. I don't see any Big 10/12 team doing that.

Did SIU have to schedule 2 games at Indiana to get that game in Carbondale or is that a home and home series?

[UNIDadx3]

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Say what you want, but the times are changing. Why would Michigan State want to play Kentucky at Kentucky when they can play a team like Bradley at Bradley with a better RPI.

[BryceC]

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Say what you want, but the times are changing. Why would Michigan State want to play Kentucky at Kentucky when they can play a team like Bradley at Bradley with a better RPI.

Because it's a huge game with national appeal that will be on a huge network and have massive viewership which in turn helps keep the program in the spotlight and also helps recruiting.

There are a lot of reasons why teams do things.

[AmesPanther]

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ISU didn't do a 2 for 1 with Bradley. ISU played Bradley at Wells, and went on to play Bradley on their home court. This is one of the reasons the "capital city classic" was cancelled.

For Bradley The Well isn't neutral. It was a 2 for 1.

Did SIU have to schedule 2 games at Indiana to get that game in Carbondale or is that a home and home series?

I have no idea.

Say what you want, but the times are changing. Why would Michigan State want to play Kentucky at Kentucky when they can play a team like Bradley at Bradley with a better RPI.

They are, but only for a few teams that have made good runs in the big dance. Gonzaga gets respect.
Bradley and SIU have earned some. UNI is getting there but right now I don't see any Big 10/12 team giving UNI what ISU and Iowa do. Right now UNI has the respect factor, as in don't play UNI because there is a good chance you will lose, but not as in play this team a 1 for 1 series. Drake certainly isn't going to get this kind of deal.

[CincyPanther88]

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Say what you want, but the times are changing. Why would Michigan State want to play Kentucky at Kentucky when they can play a team like Bradley at Bradley with a better RPI.

I don't want to sound like I'm downgrading MVC schools but schools like Kentucky can probably get better quicker than someone like Bradley. Even a school like Iowa can get a decent recruiting class, their returning players and perhaps a transfer and get back into the top 25 quicker than UNI could. Part of that is perception because they are larger schools and they play in power conferences but if Kentucky goes 18-12 and Bradley does the same, odds are Kentucky will be better faster.

It also has to do with the great god of TV too. Any TV exec with a brain in his head would rather show a Michigan St.-Kentucky game rather than a Michigan St.-Bradley game.

[Khan4Cats]

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[QUOTE=AmesPanther;106183]What did Bradley agree to for that game? Bradley gave ISU 2 to get 1. I think there are a few Big 10/12 teams that would give UNI a home game in exchange for 2 home games.

UNI currently has a 1 for 1 with ISU/Iowa. I don't see any Big 10/12 team doing that.[/QUOTE]

Creighton-Nebraska

[Khan4Cats]

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Did SIU have to schedule 2 games at Indiana to get that game in Carbondale or is that a home and home series?

SIU played football at IU (and won) in addition to the home and home for basketball. I think they took a smaller football check in exchange for the home bb game.

[AmesPanther]

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What did Bradley agree to for that game? Bradley gave ISU 2 to get 1. I think there are a few Big 10/12 teams that would give UNI a home game in exchange for 2 home games.

UNI currently has a 1 for 1 with ISU/Iowa. I don't see any Big 10/12 team doing that.

Creighton-Nebraska

I didn't say no Big 10/12 would do a 1 for 1 with any MVC team. I'm talking about UNI specifically.

Bradley and SIU bought themselves some bargaining power with tourney runs. They need to keep up tourney runs to keep up the bargaining power. Also I don't see them getting 1 for 1's without giving up something. TV or something has to be there.

I'm not a Creighton expert but I thought they averaged 15k or something. They are way better than Nebraska. I'm surprised Creighton puts up with the lower attendance and lack of winning at NU.

UNI going to the big dance so many years in a row helps a lot, but it's not quite enough. UNI needs a run this year. Drake is in a much worse boat for bargaining power.