Lick This

[WaterlooPantherToo]

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iowa didnt want to play UNI even when they were winning every year.

That's because this whole issue boils down to respect (actually, lack of it) for UNI. Many Iowa types feel that by coming to our court they give us credibility that we don't deserve (and they don't want us to have). Anything that is a threat to the dual monoliths called Iowa and Iowa State is by definition bad.

This whole issue plays out in non-athletic relationships again and again also.

UNI establishes an MBA program in Hong Kong.....guess what Iowa does....instead of establishing a program in another major Asian city (ie, Tokyo, Singapore, Bejing, etc), they establish one in Hong Kong.

UNI builds a statewide radio public radio network (despite periodic opposition from UI and ISU) and what happens....Iowa Public Radio. Significant amounts of "new, local" content is based guess where? Iowa City

I would rather not play them at all then have a road only relationship.

[UNIGrainer]

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I'd like to see a state tourney this year. I think UNI could beat Drake in the FINALS. Go MVC!

[9YRPLAN]

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first of all calm down.

second if we (we means UNI in case you are confused) really wanted to help our ( again UNI) RPI then here is a thought maybe LICK could recruit some better players and learn to coach offense and hopefully when UNI beats them in the future it will help our at large case.

third :how to you know he is a classy guy. So far he kind of sounds like an idiot to me?

it has nothing to do with respect. it has everything to do with giving up a home game, or a game against a "BCS" conference team. (i dont like the mid-major label). its about $$$$$ and building a tourney resume.

if you do not have respect for lickliter, you have not followed any CBB the past decade and are simply on the UNI bandwagon. if only lick were as classy as you, willie...wow

[WaterlooPantherToo]

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it has nothing to do with respect. it has everything to do with giving up a home game, or a game against a "BCS" conference team. (i dont like the mid-major label). its about $$$$$ and building a tourney resume.

Last time I looked the UI athletic department budget wasn't in dire need of additional cash (generating a $6.7 million dollar surplus on $61.7 million dollars of revenue).

I will believe the "resume building" argument when they start to schedule teams other than:

Idaho St - Sagarin #277
Northern Colorado - Sagarin #273
Md Eastern Shore - Sagarin #326
Florida Gulf Coast - Sagarin #325
Lousiana Monroe - Sagarin #228

It appears that if they want to improve their resume, there are five prime candidates to be replaced.

As has been said, at this point UNI improves Iowa's resume.

UNI - Sagarin #54
Iowa - Sararin #140

[9YRPLAN]

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which is why I said its also about money. iowa will draw about 10,000 paid to see a crappy opponent even with this ugly iowa team, and at $20 a ticket, thats $200,000 BEFORE concessions, parking, and merchandise. so they are giving up alot of revenue for a UNI game that, until 4 years ago, hurt their RPI- win or lose.

im as big a UNI fan as anyone, but lets not pretend UNI is some powerhouse. uni has won, what, 3 of 4 and 4 of 6 from iowa? we have one more NCAA tournament appearance and the same number of conference titles, conference tournament titles, and NCAA tourney wins in that time. i wouldnt say UNI is exactly dominating Iowa.

[Tango Charlie]

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im as big a UNI fan as anyone,

Not when you talk Iowa trash all the time

but lets not pretend UNI is some powerhouse. uni has won, what, 3 of 4 and 4 of 6 from iowa? we have one more NCAA tournament appearance and the same number of conference titles, conference tournament titles, and NCAA tourney wins in that time. i wouldnt say UNI is exactly dominating Iowa.

Just another IOWA apologist.

[9YRPLAN]

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by stating facts, and getting tired of the idea that some UNI fans think that 4 good years make a program?

[OhNewby]

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how in the hell anyone from drake or UNI took any disrespect from that article is simply trying to stir the pot. unbelievable. especially coming from someone as classy as Lickliter.

I'd use the classy description for Coach Jake, but not for Lickliter. I caught part of the last Iowa game on TV and the guy seems hyperactive and annoying, riding the refs for no reason.

Glad we have Coach Jake!

[9YRPLAN]

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jake is definitely a class act as well. i also wouldnt judge any coach based on part of any one game.

how any CBB fan cannot be familiar with Lickliter and his former butler program amazes me. they guy is very highly regarded by his peers.

[jman2004]

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He was coach of the year for a reason. He's very good and normally very classy.

But come on 9yearplan, I don't mind the Hawks either, but you didn't read that article closely enough obviously. He was a hypocrite. He fought like crazy probably to schedule games like Indiana and Purdue when he was at Butler because he knew it was good for his program. Now that he's at Iowa he feels the need to schedule cupcakes and build a tournament resume? You're right, I agree, it is all about building that tournament resume, and for the time being, games against UNI and Drake aren't really going to hurt the Hawks. So why else is he complaining?

I wouldn't have had a single problem with his comments if he would've included Iowa State but he didn't. He specifically said he thought it was interesting that Iowa and Iowa State HAD to play UNI and Drake. He grouped himself and the Hawkeyes together with the Cyclones. That crossed the line for me and others on here are exactly right. It's about respect. You can't say you have respect for those programs and then go make a comment like that.

I agree with you, 4 successful basketball seasons does not make a program, but seriously, at this point in time, who do you really think has the upper hand on the court? Lickliter has nothing to lose playing us and Drake so he should just shut up and coach his team.

[9YRPLAN]

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are you aware that the big ten added two conference games this year? how can you say that iowa has nothing to lose? they are losing a home date every year by playing UNI and Drake.

[ihateISU]

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"are you aware that the big ten added two conference games this year? how can you say that iowa has nothing to lose? they are losing a home date every year by playing UNI and Drake. "

the MVC also plays 18 conference games, so you could argue that we have something to lose: we lose a home game every year also by playing Iowa or Iowa St.

There are still plently of games to schedule cupcakes.

[9YRPLAN]

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its a little different when those games are UNI's biggest draws of the season. dont be naive. youve seen what UNI attendance looks like against the cupcakes. iowa and ISU dont sell out every game either, but their cupcakes dont draw literally 1/3 of the attendance of the rivalry games.

i do commend hartzell and jake for passing on the paycheck and playing iowa in mcleod this year.

[williebat]

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He was coach of the year for a reason. He's very good and normally very classy.

But come on 9yearplan, I don't mind the Hawks either, but you didn't read that article closely enough obviously. He was a hypocrite. He fought like crazy probably to schedule games like Indiana and Purdue when he was at Butler because he knew it was good for his program. Now that he's at Iowa he feels the need to schedule cupcakes and build a tournament resume? You're right, I agree, it is all about building that tournament resume, and for the time being, games against UNI and Drake aren't really going to hurt the Hawks. So why else is he complaining?

I wouldn't have had a single problem with his comments if he would've included Iowa State but he didn't. He specifically said he thought it was interesting that Iowa and Iowa State HAD to play UNI and Drake. He grouped himself and the Hawkeyes together with the Cyclones. That crossed the line for me and others on here are exactly right. It's about respect. You can't say you have respect for those programs and then go make a comment like that.

I agree with you, 4 successful basketball seasons does not make a program, but seriously, at this point in time, who do you really think has the upper hand on the court? Lickliter has nothing to lose playing us and Drake so he should just shut up and coach his team.

Amen brother!!!!!!!

[9YRPLAN]

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well find out pretty soon. should be a good game.