Cats @ Trees (FSN, Comcast)

[clenz]

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It was Haak not Veit playing. He probably played well enough, to get some more minutes, in fact you'll probably see Haak at point and Josten at 2 in some upcoming games.

Reed played hard but was 0-6 from the field. That's not going to help us.

I'm not sure it was "mop up time"...Jordan, EC and Koch played the whole game. I think Coach Jake was going with what he thought were the best players, at least last night.

Dunham was 0-4, all on open shots, 1 rebound (6' 6") and 2 turnovers. I really think he'll be on the bench for Illinois State.

Montgomery played very hard, and really was a bright spot, he even made some tough 3's.

OK, Haak. I wasn't watching the game on the biggest 15 inch tv you'll ever see. I did say at one point during the game though when I did realize it was Haak and not Veit that he will, and probably should be seeing more minutes in the upcoming games. We need to find someone that is comfortable with the ball in their hands all the time at the point. I wouldn't mind seeing more minutes out of Jon and Haak, but I'm not the coach so we will see what happens

[clenz]

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Oh my goodness! Someone talking bad about a player by name. What happened to the panthernation I used to know that would slap me around in a thread for five days because I talked bad about Ben Jacobson or Brian Wingert?Apparently it is okay now, but not when I used to do it

Do some searching for posts that I have made. You'll find there is still the same PN out there.

It might not have always been players names I've said, but its still there.

You'd think questioning Jake is like questioning God or something.

[panther91]

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They were shooting 30% from three coming in and they have quicker guards. The decision was made to go under the ball screens. I'm sure if we went the other way we would all be discussing why we let them penetrate.

[Khan4Cats]

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How is 2 out of 14 teams going off on us from three a trend?

It is definitely less of a "trend" than holding Evansville, Bradley, and most of the other teams we have played to 35% shooting or less.

The "trend" with this team is simply that if we play solid defense, we give ourselves a chance to win. We usually try and take away something from a team, but that also means giving up something. Last night, we gave Indiana State some looks at the three in favor of taking away their driving shots. They made the shots we gave them. It happens. Kind of like JJ Tuaia a couple years ago for Bradley having benn 2 for 23 on the year from 3, so we left him alone and he goes 5-6 against us. We play percentages and sometimes it doesn't play out.

On to the Redbirds. They have been the most impressive so far with wins at Creighton and Wichita and a home win over SIU. Put this one behind us and move on.

[9YRPLAN]

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illinois state has jeremy robinson coming in next year. he is a stud, maybe better than his teammate lewis jackson

[FuturePanther09]

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But...is there anyone else out there that thinks maybe Coach Jake is in over his head?

ME ME ME!!!

I can't stand watching our offence. I know I'm not ms. basketball know it all but I know a boring, bad offence when I see one, and I'm definitly seeing it out of UNI. Do more then just pass it around the arch the whole game! If you see an open lane, take it. Three pointers are nice and all but having plenty of two pointers is way better then not many three's.....

And again with EC not starting, I say get him in the starting line up, and get him scoring. I still don't see the point in letting the best player in the entire conference sit on the bench. Get em out and get em going, we can use those early points!!!

[Panther Fan]

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ME ME ME!!!

I can't stand watching our offence. I know I'm not ms. basketball know it all but I know a boring, bad offence when I see one

You people do realize this is mostly the offense Mac used to take us to three straight NCAA's? In listening to Mac and Jake in pre and post games they both say the same thing; our offense is based on hitting outside shots. When that doesn't happen we have problems. Does anyone remember how painful it was to watch the second half of the Georgetown game?

I'm not here to defend Jake, time will tell. But I think the discussion is getting REALLY old. We have no point guard and a lot of young players. Coleman starting doesn’t change that.

I guess many of you think Jake could have planned better for the Culliver situation and Kwadzo suffer a season ending injury (please note sarcasm).

[panther91]

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This is sad. The worst part of the 4 year period (03-07) is that people are nowhere near as patient with Jake as they were when Mac started. The guy is 28-17 at UNI. This year we are playing with our 3rd string point guard.

Our offense is the same as when Mac was here. What is different ... oh yeah, no Benny J, no Eric Crawford and no John Little. When a team hits 8 of the first 11 threes we will get thumped!

If we continue to play like we did last night we will play Thursday night in St. Louis. If that is the case ... I will still be there screaming with my family.

[DRAKELAWPANTHER]

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I go back and forth on the Coach Jake thing. You've got to give him credit for continuing with the development of stingy defense - and for getting a relatively good start from a team that has no point guards and no player who can hit a wide open three. That's tough.

On the other hand, I don't think it's too much to have expected tournament-level success last year - or even this year (after the start we got off to). I know some of you have pooh-poohed the idea of getting a more successful "assistant" coach from another program, arguing that they would offer no more experience than Jake. But then you see the success of Keno at Drake (who has half the talent we do), Il.St.,and ISU with new coaches, and you wonder if Jake has underperformed.

Oh well...time will tell...

[panther91]

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I really think our best is still to come ... it can't get worse than last night. I have posted this before ... we haven't been this young since '03-04. Hopefully we mature like that group did.

I haven't seen Drake, but everything I've heard is that they are very talented.

[DWadle1983]

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I really think our best is still to come ... it can't get worse than last night. I have posted this before ... we haven't been this young since '03-04. Hopefully we mature like that group did.

I haven't seen Drake, but everything I've heard is that they are very talented.

Drake won at Evansville 71-68 today.

[NorthernIowaBacker]

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But then you see the success of Keno at Drake (who has half the talent we do), Il.St.,and ISU with new coaches, and you wonder if Jake has underperformed.

Dude for real, quit blowing Drake. You mean the half season Keno has coached?? Wow...

[clenz]

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I'm not giving up on Jake, I'm far from it. Do I think it is time to revamp the offense some? Yes. Am I calling for a complete over haul of it? No. I've infact stated that it hurts us not having a true PG out there most of the game. If we can get Haak some minutes and he plays well we will be much improved.

[joecooll6]

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I dont know if its the offense, it may be the players playing it. We just dont have very many good shooters.

[UNIAlum95]

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Reed played hard but was 0-6 from the field. That's not going to help us.

Any one else think that we need to design some plays to help Carlton get into the offensive flow? Instead of letting him shoot outside, setup some isolation plays for him to attack the basket and maybe get some easier looks.