Could #14 Drake beat other ranked teams?

[clenz]

Re: Could #14 Drake beat other ranked teams?

And as for whether those BCS teams could win the same 21 games in a row that Drake has...well, we know Mich. St. couldn't have done it (Iowa)...and Texas sure had an awfully tough time against the team Drake beat by 35...just to name a couple. So, no - I'd bet one (MAYBE) of the five teams listed could do what Drake's done...

You really don't think that Indiana, North Carolina, and Texas could run through the MVC untouched as of rosters right now? That is completely moronic!

[jegbomb52]

Re: Could #14 Drake beat other ranked teams?

No, they wouldn't run through "untouched." You make it sound like we are talking about the 1997 Chicago Freaking Bulls here. Could they "maybe" go un-defeated? Abso-Freakinglutely! Teams like that could run through their own conference un-defeated. Could they get "upset" on some minute Wednesday night game by some team that lights up for 10 three pointers and plays defense. Also, absofreakinglutely.

I have to beg to differ that it would be "moronic", possible, sure, but "moronic" not in my opinion.

You might need to check your BCS blinders at the door.

[unigriff]

Re: Could #14 Drake beat other ranked teams?

So, if and when Drake is like a 5 seed in the tourney and a 12 seed comes along and beats them...will it be an upset?

[unigriff]

Re: Could #14 Drake beat other ranked teams?

has a MVC team ever been a 3? Wasn't someone a 4 last year or recently?? (im too lazy to go look)

[clenz]

Re: Could #14 Drake beat other ranked teams?

BCS blinders? I have blinders because I realize North Caroline, K-State, Duke, Texas, A&M, and schools like that much more talent than the Valley schools do? I have blinders because I feel that UNC, Texas, A&M could go through the Valley undefeated with the current rosters?

I'll try to take them off I guess and put one some Valley shaped glasses, but the fact of the matter is the Valley isn't as good as the ACC top to bottom. I don't think Drake is as good as Texas, UNC, Kansas, Kansas St. ect...

I guess me thinking that makes me a horrible person, a horrible Panther fan, and a horrible Valley fan. I guess I'll just go quit life.

[clenz]

Re: Could #14 Drake beat other ranked teams?

Let's run a Valley/ACC or Valley/Big East challenge like the Big 10/ACC. Put the best teams against the best teams. Then I will be able to make a better judgment.

I'll even throw some match ups together quick

Valley ACC first round match ups (i'm going off of #1 vs #1 and ect...)

Drake vs. Duke
Illinois State vs. UNC
Maryland vs. Creighton
Clemson vs. SIU
Bradley vs. Va Tech
UNI vs. Georgia Tech
NC State vs. Indiana State
Wake Forest vs. Missouri State
WSU vs. Miami
Evansville vs. Florida State

Valley/Big East

Drake/Georgetown
ISU(r)/Notre Dame
Creighton/Louisville
SIU/ UCONN
Bradley/Pitt
UNI/Marquette
ISU(b)/Syracuse
MSU/Cincinnati
WSU/WVU
Evansville/Seton Hall

Make your picks no who wins those games

[jman2004]

Re: Could #14 Drake beat other ranked teams?

clenz, you're really talking yourself in circles here. You're going out of your way to convince us that Drake isn't very good compared to other top teams, then on the other hand, trying to tell us that you love the Valley. By creating that little scenario above, you've slapped the Valley in the face while claiming that you're NOT dissing the Valley. Stop trying so hard.

College basketball is an interesting game because the number of athletes a team have doesn't always matter. Drake has won 21 straight games, playing in arguably the 8th toughest conference in America. Give them some freakin' credit! They've earned it this season.

You're arguing that Drake isn't talented enough to beat some of the top teams in the country and you're using that #14 ranking against them in doing so. That's besides the point. It's your own hypotheticals. Drake has earned that #14 ranking regardless of what you think. Let this argument go, cut them some slack, and cheer them on in the NCAA tourney.

[jman2004]

Re: Could #14 Drake beat other ranked teams?

And for the record, I guarantee you that teams like Texas A&M, Kansas State, and Michigan State would NOT run the table in the Valley. Remember that they play in the Big 12 and Big 10, two conferences that Drake has had the liberty to play teams from this season (and beat).

[clenz]

Re: Could #14 Drake beat other ranked teams?

I don't think I've ever said I won't cheer for them in the NCAA's.

If you want to believe Drake can take down Texas, UNC, and Duke that's your thing. I don't think they can. I guess I'll be done

[jman2004]

Re: Could #14 Drake beat other ranked teams?

If you want to believe Drake can take down Texas, UNC, and Duke that's your thing. I don't think they can.

If this is all you would've said in this thread, I wouldn't have commented. But it's not.

You even went to the extreme of setting up a Valley/ACC showdown hoping to prove that we would fail. Plus, you didn't only mention Texas, UNC, and Duke. You talked about A&M, you talked about Michigan State and you talked about Kansas State. As someone else already said, Michigan State lost to Iowa, so what does that have to say?

Drake is dangerous when it comes to shooting the three ball and any team that can do it effectively like them, will be able to win ballgames that others believe they may not.

[DRAKELAWPANTHER]

Re: Could #14 Drake beat other ranked teams?

If this is all you would've said in this thread, I wouldn't have commented. But it's not.

You even went to the extreme of setting up a Valley/ACC showdown hoping to prove that we would fail. Plus, you didn't only mention Texas, UNC, and Duke. You talked about A&M, you talked about Michigan State and you talked about Kansas State. As someone else already said, Michigan State lost to Iowa, so what does that have to say?

Drake is dangerous when it comes to shooting the three ball and any team that can do it effectively like them, will be able to win ballgames that others believe they may not.

Amen.

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Could #14 Drake beat other ranked teams?

would they beat them? who knows...

could they beat them? without a doubt

[jegbomb52]

Re: Could #14 Drake beat other ranked teams?

BCS blinders? I have blinders because I realize North Caroline, K-State, Duke, Texas, A&M, and schools like that much more talent than the Valley schools do? I have blinders because I feel that UNC, Texas, A&M could go through the Valley undefeated with the current rosters?

I'll try to take them off I guess and put one some Valley shaped glasses, but the fact of the matter is the Valley isn't as good as the ACC top to bottom. I don't think Drake is as good as Texas, UNC, Kansas, Kansas St. ect...

I guess me thinking that makes me a horrible person, a horrible Panther fan, and a horrible Valley fan. I guess I'll just go quit life.

Clenz, you first off are breaking the number one rule of message board posting. You are taking this personally. Its not that big of a deal. Do I think Drake is as good as Kansas? No! Not at all. Do I think the Valley is as good as the ACC? No! Not at all. You changed one word in the argument you have been arguing on here all week. That word you ask? "could."

At points in time you have said it "is no question" that those schools would run the table in the valley. Or that if we didn't think that Duke or Memphis wouldn't run the table that we are "moronic." Its all in how you word it, you are making statements that are guaranteed lock statements, when you changed "would easily" to "could" you make a lot of people happy.

[GonzoCat]

Re: Could #14 Drake beat other ranked teams?

This reminds me a lot of the "could UNI beat Iowa" (football) threads on hawkeye report last fall.

[Cat80]

Re: Could #14 Drake beat other ranked teams?

Replace Drake with UNI, SIU or Creighton. If any of them were ranked 14th, what would the answer be? It's just as much speculation either way. I remember a #2 seed losing in the tournament not too long ago. If SIU, Creighton, UNI or whoever really wants to answer that question; win more games.

BTW: SIU ahead of Drake by 8 about 14 mins left.