Jacobsen is 100% stupid for not putting JE and EC both in the starting lineup!

[TravelingPanther]

Re: Jacobsen is 100% stupid for not putting JE and EC both in the starting lineup!

Ever think its possibly some fault on the players to ?? easy to blame the coach but if the players dont do what there told or excute plays it doesnt matter much. As in say football if Farley calls a great play and the QB doesnt listen or throw the ball to the guy is it the coach thats a dumbass ??

Man this site is starting to sound kinda like the hawkeye board

We're not talking about one play. We're talking about the majority of a game for the majority of the season.

[06panther10]

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Coleman gives it his all. He cares. He hustles. We woud be absolutley nothing without Coleman. Where are these monumental "mistakes" that Coleman has been making? I must have missed them. Were they any worse than Viet's fouls, Jostens TO's, Koch's sloppy play? No.

[TravelingPanther]

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Coleman is not completely with us. Not sure what the deal with that us. But his play or lack thereof is not the reason why the team looks completely helpless most of the time.

We ran the same press break that wasn't working against Wichita State for 5 minutes. Change the line-up or change the press break.

[Newt99]

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Yeah, kind of stupid to not start a guy with a bad disc in his back who just missed a game.

You almost have to be intentionally ignoring the point of this thread, Matt. This isn't about just this one game. There were 24 games before Jordan's injury. How many MINUTES have Coleman and Egelseder been on the floor together the entire season?

I agree, JE and Coleman should play together with Koch also, go big and make the other team adjust. The inside game is all UNI has and I don't see them trying to exploit it.

I absolutely agree, I said almost the exact same thing in another thread more than a month ago. I can't figure out why we refuse to play to our strengths and make other teams adjust to us. You're telling me you can't figure out a way to create mismatches with these guys?

Coleman -- a power forward who can bring it up the court, take his man off the dribble in the half court set, one of the best athletes in the MVC.

Jordan -- a seven-footer who can shoot threes to go along with his rapidly improving inside game.

Koch -- athletic, versatile, fairly quick for his size and a pretty good ball handler for a big man.

I'm not even saying they should all start or be on the floor together all the time. But at this point in the season, all should be capable of playing 25-32 minutes a game, so they should be able to all be out there together 10-15 minutes a game.

leadership starts at the top and i'm not seeing it. This team is flat out confused and I blame that on Jake, not EC. He was not responsible for losing his point guards, but he is responsible for losing his team. Matt's not right to blame this on EC. Remember, he was benched to start his senior year and has yet to log enough minutes to ever believe he is supposed to be the leader of this team. Yet I see him hustle, rebound, pass and, yes, make a couple mistakes a game. Josten made at least 3 bad mistakes today, but yet he wasn't immediately pulled from the game to a big scowl or chewing out...not that he should have been. But niether should Coleman. Stop using him as your scapegoat for this season...as ugly as it is, it would be Sam Weaver ugly without EC.

This post was so completely filled with AWESOME that I just wanted to see it one more time.

[01PantherFan]

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Coleman plays when he wants he takes bad fouls the whole point is you all blame the coach and dont see that no matter what the plan might be that sometimes the players dont execute, I am not saying coach jake is not without faults but the point is it isnt just him the players fail to make plays, EC cant rebound, players miss wide open shots ect... they are young for openers I just think your blaming it all on the coach and failing to see that sometimes no matter what the coach may call if the players dont execute it dont mean squat.

[01PantherFan]

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Coleman gives it his all. He cares. He hustles. We woud be absolutley nothing without Coleman. Where are these monumental "mistakes" that Coleman has been making? I must have missed them. Were they any worse than Viet's fouls, Jostens TO's, Koch's sloppy play? No.

Coleman plays when Coleman wants to, he gets a couple of fouls and he is not the same player, and he is very inconsistant in that some games he is fired up and want to play and some he doesnt

[dan_beeding]

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You guys must've had a tough practice today.

[bigticket]

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If I didn't know better, I would have thought i was reading a Randy Moss thread. If Coleman got the calls that Falkner got maybe this discussion about his play wouldn't take place.

Back to the original post... How Coleman, Jordan, and Koch do not see time together is amazing. Why not try it, this team is toast unless something changes.

[Pantherpower]

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All day long and twice on Sunday. How you can always seem to minimize the importance of EC is baffling to me. Is this coach Jake?

Do you have children? Laissez faire parenting doesn't work in the home, nor does this approach work for coaching a group of kids or leading a team in the office for that matter.

Leadership and management aren't about making the popular decisions; It's setting an example and vision for the future.

I don't agree with all of the decisions that Ben makes, but he's forgotten more about basketball than I'll ever know. He'd probably raise questions about decisions made by me in my place of work, but that's the way it is.

Eric has visibly checked out of this season and that's his decision, but Jake doesn't have to put up with it and I applaud him for not making the "popular" decision by awarding half-assed play.

As for the "staredown" between Ben and Eric in the closing moments of the game, give me a break! I'm no lip reader nor was I within earshot, but I imagine it went along the lines of Jake asking questions of Eric and figuratively handing him a mirror to look into if he wanted to place blame. "How does it feel to see them winning the MVC title on your home court in one of your last games? How does it feel to let them do this in front of 7,200+ fans? Do you feel good about giving 50% effort? Letting your teammates down?" etc....

Hopefully, the line from Gladiator will sink in with Eric before his time at UNI is done. It goes something like this, "What we do in this lifetime, echoes in eternity."
Not a bad mantra to have.

[jman2004]

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Eric has visibly checked out of this season and that's his decision, but Jake doesn't have to put up with it and I applaud him for not making the "popular" decision by awarding half-assed play.

There's a reason Eric has "checked out". His worthless excuse of a coach refuses to put this team in a position to win.

[jman2004]

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Eric has visibly checked out of this season and that's his decision, but Jake doesn't have to put up with it and I applaud him for not making the "popular" decision by awarding half-assed play.

And what about "half-assed" coaching? How much longer do we as fans have to put up with it? Seriously, it shouldn't take a genius to see that something's not quite right.

[9YRPLAN]

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i sometimes wonder if its just as simple as these guys not having coach Mac as a big man coach any longer

[clenz]

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i sometimes wonder if its just as simple as these guys not having coach Mac as a big man coach any longer

Jake coached the posts, as was pointed out to me in the Should EC start thread. That came along with Jake's entire life story

[jman2004]

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Coleman plays when he wants he takes bad fouls the whole point is you all blame the coach and dont see that no matter what the plan might be that sometimes the players dont execute

If I've learned anything this season, it's that Coach Jake very rarely has an offensive plan.

I would actually go the opposite and say that it's rather easy for people to blame THE PLAYERS for not hitting shots or rebounding or etc.

I can't put too much blame in our players when our offense is based around the concept of passing the ball around the wings for 30 seconds playing HOT POTATO, leaving the poor bastard left with the ball at the end of the shot clock to heave it up at the basket.

Fact is, MOST of the problems this team had last year and this year have not gotten better and MOST of them come back to coaching. Developing new schemes, calling actual plays, substitution patterns, getting the right guys on the floor at the right time, etc. These are on Jake and no one else. As nice and down-to-earth of a guy as he is, he looks severely out of his league.

[jman2004]

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Jake coached the posts, as was pointed out to me in the Should EC start thread. That came along with Jake's entire life story

You're right, Jake worked with the posts in practice. But Mac made sure his game plan included them each and every game. Jake has no game plan. And if he does, it falls apart as soon as the official tosses the ball in the air.