The Valley is a 3 Bid League...

[Schack]

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Found this quote on the IlSU message board:



Kyle Whelliston: (12:01 PM ET ) To all Redbird fans, I'd say save yourselves the heartbreak and let go now. The committee won't find any big-time wins (unfortunately, the Wright State victory was downgraded a little over the weekend), and the team's achilles shoed up again last night: defense. Look, it's been a great breakthough year with much more to come. Lots of juniors look to step up next season.

[Back2BackCats]

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If you are going to throw out all the "bubble teams" that had a bad game that won't leave too many. Kentucky=out, lost to Gardner Webb, Michigan State=out, lost to Iowa. Syracuse=out, lost to S. Florida.

[9YRPLAN]

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I think it is a joke that OSU is even getting considered. They have not beaten anyone all year long. Syracuse, on the other hand, has some really good wins along with some very bad losses, so im not sure about them.

you really need to start thinking before you post. tOSU has beaten MSU and purdue in the last week, and florida and SYRACUSE earlier in the year.

[06panther10]

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you really need to start thinking before you post. tOSU has beaten MSU and purdue in the last week, and florida and SYRACUSE earlier in the year.

Who cares who has beaten MSU. They have been overrated all season long. Purdue is a good win. Florida is not in the tourny. And that is one of the BAD losses that I was talking about with Syracuse. OSU's resume is pure mediocrity.

[9YRPLAN]

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the entire bubble is mediocre this year. tOSU is being considered because they have beaten two other bubble teams head to head and because they are playing well late. its no secret that these are both huge factors.

[06panther10]

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Ohio State's season has included losses to Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, and getting crushed by Texas A&M.

[9YRPLAN]

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MSU has beaten texas, BYU, nc state, bradley, purdue, and indiana. they dont have any really bad losses. they are not a top 15 team, but they can beat anyone on any given night. tons of talent. they barely lost to UCLA.

[9YRPLAN]

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there is no really such thing as a bad road loss in a major conference unless you are losing to evansville or northwestern.

[Newsbreaker]

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I love this exchange!

1 - tOSU hasn't beaten anybody.
2 - They beat MSU
3 - Who cares if they beat MSU.

Oh well, in that case.

Back to the subject, we're a 1 or 2 bid league. I think that is clear now.

[jman2004]

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Ohio State NCAA Resume: (RPI of 49, SOS of 21)
19-14 overall

Non-conference record: 9-4

Non-conference wins (with team RPI rank at the time):
Wisc-GB (149)
Columbia (224)
Syracuse (46)
Virginia Military (272)
Coppin St. (266)
Presbyterian (333)
Cleveland St (71)
Florida (65)
MD Baltimore County (88)

Non-conference losses:
Texas A&M (47)
UNC (2)
Butler (16)
Tennessee (1)

OSU is 3-9 against teams in the top 50 RPI. They lost to EVERY team that helped their SOS ranking reach its height (21).

They're only 10-8 in conference play. They do have recent wins against Purdue and Michigan St, however they are 4-6 in their last 10 games.

Go ahead, make a case for them. Someone, anyone . . .

[Khan4Cats]

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Big Ten Conference. BcS.

[06panther10]

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Ohio State shouldn't be in. I just looked at Bracketology for today on ESPN and Lunardi has Illinois St. atop his list of the last four in. He has Ohio State as the absolute last team in right now. Illinois State is hangin' on by a thread yet.

[Panther789]

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Ohio State NCAA Resume: (RPI of 49, SOS of 21)
19-14 overall

Non-conference record: 9-4

OSU is 3-9 against teams in the top 50 RPI. They lost to EVERY team that helped their SOS ranking reach its height (21).

Go ahead, make a case for them. Someone, anyone . . .

I'll start by putting the things you made up in bold.

OSU is 19-12

One would assume that 27-7 Michigan State as well as 24-7 Purdue helped OSU's strength of schedule.

You are probably making an issue where there isn't one. Lunardi's projections are as of today. If OSU beats MSU, they then have 3 top 50 wins in a row, including 2 against a top 15 RPI team. Their RPI and SOS would almost certainly improve with games against MSU and Wisconsin.

If OSU loses, they are probably on the outside looking in.

[jman2004]

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Sorry, I swear I saw 14 somewhere. You're right though, on their overall record . . .

However they are still 3-9 against top 50 RPI teams. What that tells me is that over the course of the season they have had plenty of opportunities against the big boys and have failed more often than not.

You're right though, there is some season left, but as of right now, Ohio State should not be in.

[Panther789]

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Sorry, I swear I saw 14 somewhere. You're right though, on their overall record . . .

However they are still 3-9 against top 50 RPI teams. What that tells me is that over the course of the season they have had plenty of opportunities against the big boys and have failed more often than not.

The same could be said about Illinois State, as well as almost every other bubble team. That is why they are on the bubble.