Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

[dan_beeding]

Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

Let me rephrase that. If his reasons for leaving are the ones being discussed (i.e. money, facilities, Big XII), they are garbage. If you don't like my opinion, don't respond, and you won't hear anymore from me about it. Otherwise, deal with it.

[TH1974]

Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

Let me rephrase that. If his reasons for leaving are the ones being discussed (i.e. money, facilities, Big XII), they are garbage.

Those are valid reasons for leaving.

[06panther10]

Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

If money, facilities, and opportunity are not valid reasons, than what IS a valid reason?

[UNI_12]

Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

In the last three years, Coach Mac has coached against Kevin Durant, Michael Beasley, and Blake Griffin...he also competes against the likes of Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma, etc. now on a regular basis...he hasn't fared well since he took the ISU job but has a solid young core now in Brackins, Garrett, and Eikmeier, and has some studs coming in down the road (Colvin, Dykstra, Kadima, and possibly a certain ames high player that attends nearly every single ISU game, hangs out with the players away from Hilton, and occasionally shoots on the court before games...he also has a commitment from the 7th best freshman in the nation according to espn in Wesley Staten) so success should be on the way in Ames...whether we like it or not, you don't get the opportunity to compete at that level in the MVC, or to annually compete against the best, both on the court or in recruiting...when was the last time a MVC school even went to the elite 8?...his reasons were VERY valid, and many of the players he recruited to UNI that you speak so highly of would've went to ISU or Iowa if they were offered scholarships there too.

[joecooll6]

Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

The students WILL be there tonight. Selling tickets in the Union was a great idea, there was a huge line. The students will definitely make their presence felt tonight.

The overall arena I'm not so sure about, but I don't think it will be as empty as we think.

[dan_beeding]

Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

In the last three years, Coach Mac has coached against Kevin Durant, Michael Beasley, and Blake Griffin...he also competes against the likes of Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma, etc. now on a regular basis...he hasn't fared well since he took the ISU job but has a solid young core now in Brackins, Garrett, and Eikmeier, and has some studs coming in down the road (Colvin, Dykstra, Kadima, and possibly a certain ames high player that attends nearly every single ISU game, hangs out with the players away from Hilton, and occasionally shoots on the court before games...he also has a commitment from the 7th best freshman in the nation according to espn in Wesley Staten) so success should be on the way in Ames...whether we like it or not, you don't get the opportunity to compete at that level in the MVC, or to annually compete against the best, both on the court or in recruiting...when was the last time a MVC school even went to the elite 8?...his reasons were VERY valid, and many of the players he recruited to UNI that you speak so highly of would've went to ISU or Iowa if they were offered scholarships there too.

I have very passionate feelings toward this school. If I were offered an opportunity to do something that I love for over $100,000 per year, I don't care if USC offered me 10x that much, I can live with $100,000 at the school that I love doing what I love.
MVC might not get the best players, the most press coverage, or the longest lines at the ticket booths, but we can compete with the big guys consistently, and our teams showed that when Mac was here.
If you don't agree with me, that's fine, but I care about this school, and about the people involved with it. If I didn't, I wouldn't have been the mascot for 4 years at no material gain for myself. It was a huge time commitment, hot, and smelly. I had an opportunity to leave for a free ride, but I feel a deeper connection than money, and I was willing to sacrifice a few more thousand dollars of debt to stay here. You can question my reasons, logic, or ideas all that you want, but I can assure you that this school is where my heart lies, and where I would be, given the opportunity, until I retired.

[TravelingPanther]

Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

somewhat interested. Still in football mode. Will be excited once I get there.

[UNIChippewa]

Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

I have very passionate feelings toward this school. If I were offered an opportunity to do something that I love for over $100,000 per year, I don't care if USC offered me 10x that much, I can live with $100,000 at the school that I love doing what I love.
MVC might not get the best players, the most press coverage, or the longest lines at the ticket booths, but we can compete with the big guys consistently, and our teams showed that when Mac was here.
If you don't agree with me, that's fine, but I care about this school, and about the people involved with it. If I didn't, I wouldn't have been the mascot for 4 years at no material gain for myself. It was a huge time commitment, hot, and smelly. I had an opportunity to leave for a free ride, but I feel a deeper connection than money, and I was willing to sacrifice a few more thousand dollars of debt to stay here. You can question my reasons, logic, or ideas all that you want, but I can assure you that this school is where my heart lies, and where I would be, given the opportunity, until I retired.

Cool. Good for you. My problem with your posts and why I'm critical of them is that you seem to hold other people to your own personal standard and beleif system (in this case Greg McDermott), and if they don't feel the same way you do, you are critical of them because they have a different standard or beleif system, which IMO is arrogant and myopic.

[UNI_12]

Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

I have very passionate feelings toward this school. If I were offered an opportunity to do something that I love for over $100,000 per year, I don't care if USC offered me 10x that much, I can live with $100,000 at the school that I love doing what I love.
MVC might not get the best players, the most press coverage, or the longest lines at the ticket booths, but we can compete with the big guys consistently, and our teams showed that when Mac was here.
If you don't agree with me, that's fine, but I care about this school, and about the people involved with it. If I didn't, I wouldn't have been the mascot for 4 years at no material gain for myself. It was a huge time commitment, hot, and smelly. I had an opportunity to leave for a free ride, but I feel a deeper connection than money, and I was willing to sacrifice a few more thousand dollars of debt to stay here. You can question my reasons, logic, or ideas all that you want, but I can assure you that this school is where my heart lies, and where I would be, given the opportunity, until I retired.

I don't question YOUR decision to do that one bit. That was very loyal of you, but at the same time that's what YOU wanted...McDermott wanted a chance to compete against the very best while staying close to home. He has found that now (and he still will always be a panther fan every game of the year except one)...I'm just questioning who you think you are to determine what someone elses career aspirations should be.

[dan_beeding]

Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

I don't question YOUR decision to do that one bit. That was very loyal of you, but at the same time that's what YOU wanted...McDermott wanted a chance to compete against the very best while staying close to home. He has found that now (and he still will always be a panther fan every game of the year except one)...I'm just questioning who you think you are to determine what someone elses career aspirations should be.

That's fine. All that I said to start this is that I don't agree with why he left, and I don't feel like this university owes Greg McDermott anything, including any sort of "polite applause" that everybody seems to have a hard on for. How anybody could think that he deserves anything from us after he announced his departure one day after we played Georgetown in the NCAA tournament is beyond me. Like I said, you don't have to agree with me, but this message board is for Panther fans to discuss their opinions, and that is mine.

[Panther789]

Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

That's fine. All that I said to start this is that I don't agree with why he left, and I don't feel like this university owes Greg McDermott anything, including any sort of "polite applause" that everybody seems to have a hard on for. How anybody could think that he deserves anything from us after he announced his departure one day after we played Georgetown in the NCAA tournament is beyond me. Like I said, you don't have to agree with me, but this message board is for Panther fans to discuss their opinions, and that is mine.

We get that its your opinion. Fortunately, at least a few of us recognize how rediculous it is.

If 1 wasn't enough, how many days would he have needed to wait in order to warrant this "polite applause" you speak of? If he had waited 10 days, would your tears have dried sooner?

[Panther789]

Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

Let me rephrase that. If his reasons for leaving are the ones being discussed (i.e. money, facilities, Big XII), they are garbage. If you don't like my opinion, don't respond, and you won't hear anymore from me about it. Otherwise, deal with it.

We are dealing with it. You aren't responding very well.

[dan_beeding]

Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

We get that its your opinion. Fortunately, at least a few of us recognize how rediculous it is.

If 1 wasn't enough, how many days would he have needed to wait in order to warrant this "polite applause" you speak of? If he had waited 10 days, would your tears have dried sooner?

1.) I don't know if it makes you feel better about yourself to be an @ss during every point that you make, but it makes your writing much less effective.

2.) He was obviously interviewing during our season. How hard would it have been for him to say "I am worried about coaching this team until this season is over. After the NCAA tournament, I will gladly discuss your opening?"

3.) My opinion may be "rediculous," but I don't think that they warrant your condescending tone. If you need me to tell you that you are smarter than me, and you are a much more knowledgeable fan, I'd be glad to.

4.) The reason I reiterate the fact that it is my opinion is because I am trying to emphasize that I realize others may not share my view, unlike you, whose opinion is the right one no matter what anybody else thinks.

[Panther789]

Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

1.) I don't know if it makes you feel better about yourself to be an @ss during every point that you make, but it makes your writing much less effective.

2.) He was obviously interviewing during our season. How hard would it have been for him to say "I am worried about coaching this team until this season is over. After the NCAA tournament, I will gladly discuss your opening?"

3.) My opinion may be "rediculous," but I don't think that they warrant your condescending tone. If you need me to tell you that you are smarter than me, and you are a much more knowledgeable fan, I'd be glad to.

4.) The reason I reiterate the fact that it is my opinion is because I am trying to emphasize that I realize others may not share my view, unlike you, whose opinion is the right one no matter what anybody else thinks.

I just wish you would respect Mac's opinions and choices a little more instead of calling them "crap" and "garbage."

It's very condescending of you, and some might even interpret it as being an @ss.

[jman2004]

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McDermott's reasons for leaving were very valid. He had achieved plenty in his 6 years at UNI and I don't blame him for wanting to coach Iowa State, whether it be for money or challenge (Big 12 vs. MVC).

My only issue with McDermott leaving UNI is HOW he left. He should have told Iowa State that he may be interested, but he'd rather wait until AFTER that current season to sit down and talk. Iowa State would've waited. You can't tell me too many coaches across the country, as qualified as him, were bending over backwards to be hired by Iowa State.

He also should've sat his players down and informed them all BEFORE he held a press conference in Ames. Plenty of his own players didn't even know he had been hired at the time of the announcement. It caught a lot of people off guard. McDermott has even admitted this.

Since he's acknowledged it, I'll forgive him for it. He knows it showed a lack of class and it never sat well with him. But he can't go back in time and take it back. It is what it is.

So I guess what I'M trying to say, is that while I think the reasons he left were okay and valid and while I'm willing to forgive him, I can't blame other Panther fans for any hostile negative feelings. Because Mac could've avoided many of them by simply being a little more honest than he was.