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  • Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

    Originally posted by jman2004 View Post
    McDermott's reasons for leaving were very valid. He had achieved plenty in his 6 years at UNI and I don't blame him for wanting to coach Iowa State, whether it be for money or challenge (Big 12 vs. MVC).

    My only issue with McDermott leaving UNI is HOW he left. He should have told Iowa State that he may be interested, but he'd rather wait until AFTER that current season to sit down and talk. Iowa State would've waited. You can't tell me too many coaches across the country, as qualified as him, were bending over backwards to be hired by Iowa State.

    He also should've sat his players down and informed them all BEFORE he held a press conference in Ames. Plenty of his own players didn't even know he had been hired at the time of the announcement. It caught a lot of people off guard. McDermott has even admitted this.

    Since he's acknowledged it, I'll forgive him for it. He knows it showed a lack of class and it never sat well with him. But he can't go back in time and take it back. It is what it is.

    So I guess what I'M trying to say, is that while I think the reasons he left were okay and valid and while I'm willing to forgive him, I can't blame other Panther fans for any hostile negative feelings. Because Mac could've avoided many of them by simply being a little more honest than he was.
    Very fair points, and you were able to articulate them without coming across as bitter or jealous.

    Talking to other programs isn't something you'd like to see in a perfect world, but it happens all of the time in college sports. ESPN is reporting today that Mike Leach has met with the University of Washington.

    I'm not saying ISU wouldnt have waited, but I dont think we can know that for sure, and they are certainly under a lot of pressure as well. Presumably, ISU had a list of candiates, with Mac at the top of their list. Every day that went buy, ISU risked losing each and every candiate on that list if Mac wasnt interested, of if they decided later that he wasnt the right fit. If UNI wins a tournment game, thats at least 2 more days. If UNI wins 2, thats at least another week. That's a significant amount of time in that situation.

    As far as when the players found out, if what you say is true, then its a fair point. To be fair however, as you said, Mac regrets it, and he also told his commits to honor their commitment to UNI. If thats not enough for some people, then so be it.

    Like you suggested however, he had plenty of reasons to leave, and he really only needed 1.

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    • Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

      Originally posted by dan_beeding View Post
      I have very passionate feelings toward this school. If I were offered an opportunity to do something that I love for over $100,000 per year, I don't care if USC offered me 10x that much, I can live with $100,000 at the school that I love doing what I love.
      MVC might not get the best players, the most press coverage, or the longest lines at the ticket booths, but we can compete with the big guys consistently, and our teams showed that when Mac was here.
      If you don't agree with me, that's fine, but I care about this school, and about the people involved with it. If I didn't, I wouldn't have been the mascot for 4 years at no material gain for myself. It was a huge time commitment, hot, and smelly. I had an opportunity to leave for a free ride, but I feel a deeper connection than money, and I was willing to sacrifice a few more thousand dollars of debt to stay here. You can question my reasons, logic, or ideas all that you want, but I can assure you that this school is where my heart lies, and where I would be, given the opportunity, until I retired.

      One day at band camp....

      We need to start a comedy forum so this nut bar, sorry I mean $100,000 bar, can at least be a star here!
      "Another six or seven years and 1988 will be made to feel slightly unwelcome, I'm sure."

      Quote from Newsbreaker, mark the time 10:47pm, August 31, 2014.

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      • Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

        Originally posted by SteinPizza View Post
        Uh, no, you couldn't. If you went to an NFL game with a family of 5 and spent only $200, you either won them or stole them. That's why UNI's cheap prices are such a big bargain, although it's apples and oranges.

        Vikings have tickets for $30 for upper deck. So $150 gets me in the door and I have $50 for food.

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        • Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

          Jake totally got outcoached by Mac.We have nobody that can guard Brackins and we still dont play a zone.It worked fine for IA state.Then to not play Jordan the last 10 mins. of the game and overtime is just idiotic.He is our best inside player and we shoot fade away 3 pointers the rest of the game and overtime at a 6for32 clip.Jake is a terrible coach,at least Mac knows to get the ball into your best inside player.

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          • Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

            Originally posted by Jet View Post
            Jake totally got outcoached by Mac.We have nobody that can guard Brackins and we still dont play a zone.It worked fine for IA state.Then to not play Jordan the last 10 mins. of the game and overtime is just idiotic.He is our best inside player and we shoot fade away 3 pointers the rest of the game and overtime at a 6for32 clip.Jake is a terrible coach,at least Mac knows to get the ball into your best inside player.
            Amen, there are several DIV 1 JUCO's in the state of Iowa. I assume some of them can make grades, and there are some athletes there. Find one and make them a defensive force inside. Brackings owned them. I would have tried a 2-1-2 zone with Jordan hogging up the middle and let the two on the baseline double team Brackins from behind. ISU wasn't making jack from 3 point land either so let them beat you with that.

            After what seems like 2 years of hype for ISU's Staiger he really hasn't shown to be worth all the talk.

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            • Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

              Originally posted by run&blade View Post
              After what seems like 2 years of hype for ISU's Staiger he really hasn't shown to be worth all the talk.
              This is Lucca's first year playing college basketball and missed most of the offseason with knee surgery. It's way to early to be making any final judgments on Lucca but what he's done so far was pretty much in line with most realistic fans expectations.

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              • Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

                Originally posted by run&blade View Post
                OMG, the new AD really overplaid his hand with basketball ticket prices this year. The economy is not good and the product is not exciting so very few are going to drop $40 a ticket. It would be $200 to bring my family, to watch meat grinder slow down basketball on a week night. I think the new AD came dangerously close to pricing out fans for football also, if the W's dip even a little bit crowds of 8000 will be the norm at $26 a ticket.

                Why are these game never on a weekend? You would get more people to come.

                It is going to be sorry to see that building empty on TV.
                By the way...maybe mentioned earlier in the thread (sorry if so) but the "new AD" had nothing to do with ticket prices for football or basketball this year according to what he has said. He does plan to evaluate and probably re-price both for next year and I like what I hear so far.

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                • Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

                  Originally posted by Panther-Sheik View Post
                  By the way...maybe mentioned earlier in the thread (sorry if so) but the "new AD" had nothing to do with ticket prices for football or basketball this year according to what he has said. He does plan to evaluate and probably re-price both for next year and I like what I hear so far.
                  I think they need to bring back the cheap end-zone season tickets in football. Otherwise, I don't see the football tickets being overpriced. The $40 ticket for the ISU bball game was rediculous. I can't understand any game being worth more than double the regular price. $25-$30 max for those games. I know some think that is still too high, but, they will seel it out at that price, and generating maximum revenue should be one of the goals they are going for.

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                  • Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

                    I'll vouch that I, as an ISU fan, decided against attending the game in Cedar Falls due to the outrageous ticket price. I think you lost a few hundred (if not 1000) tickets sold in ISU fans not going because of the price. I know you'd rather have UNI fans using the tickets but hey, $$ is $$. Of course when I don't go we finally win against you guys over there...maybe I'll stay home in the future as well.

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                    • Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

                      Wonka Milker? Is that you? Gosh, I haven't seen you around here forever. Things sure did get interesting when you where on the board more. I wish you would have been around for a couple of weeks before the BBall game stirring things up.
                      Illinois State Fan at a St. Louis White Castle 3:45AM Saturday March 6th:

                      "White Castle?" "more like Black Castle..."

                      You stay classy Redbirds.

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                      • Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

                        Originally posted by wonkadog View Post
                        I'll vouch that I, as an ISU fan, decided against attending the game in Cedar Falls due to the outrageous ticket price. I think you lost a few hundred (if not 1000) tickets sold in ISU fans not going because of the price. I know you'd rather have UNI fans using the tickets but hey, $$ is $$. Of course when I don't go we finally win against you guys over there...maybe I'll stay home in the future as well.
                        Jamie Pollard??...Is that you??

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                        • Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

                          Ha ha, I'm still kicking. Got over here late...you know, had to make sure we won before I started talking to you guys again. My little update thing said I hadn't visited since February so I thought it was time to come see how things are. I like the new furniture around here, nice leather couches.

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                          • Re: Is nobody else excited for ISU tomorrow, or what?!?

                            Have we seen you since we beat you in Football last fall? I would hate to think we didn't rub that in a little bit...
                            Illinois State Fan at a St. Louis White Castle 3:45AM Saturday March 6th:

                            "White Castle?" "more like Black Castle..."

                            You stay classy Redbirds.

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