VS Iowa game Thread

[Panther-Sheik]

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I'd rather see Montgomery get more minutes than Ali, Haak or Kerwin. He hasn't been much of an offensive threat, but none of the other 3 are, either. At least Jon can play great hussle defense. Also, why do we need to have a 9 or 10 man rotation when we do zero fast breaking and zero full court pressing / trapping? If you can't play more than 20 minutes in a slow break, half court offense, then you are way over your head at this level (I don't believe these guys are BTW). Let's get a 7 or 8 man rotation going with the main guys getting closer to 30 minutes a game and let them flow. It is a buzz kill when a guy who gets 2 minutes a game comes in and doesn't really offer anything.

[jman2004]

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Drake holds Brakins to 10 points last night and beats ISU in Ames. They have no real "bigs" like we do. Just guards comparable in size to UNI. But they showed some heart...and make their shots when they need to. UNI makes no adjustments to how they defend Brakins at any point throughout the game and he lights us up. Even indicates in the paper he was amazed UNI didn't double down.

Exactly. Every time Brackins touched the ball, Drake flocked to him. Iowa State proved they aren't THAT good behind the line.

We should've done the same thing. We didn't. Thanks coach.

[Newshound]

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In my view, the biggest concern I have with this team right now is when a team punches them in the mouth with an 8 to 10 point run, they don't know how to respond. That stems from a lack of leadership. There isn't a guy yet like Benny J, Crawford or McKowen that pulls the guys aside and says "that's enough of this." It happened in the second half at Illinois-Chicago, it happened in the start of the second half against ISU and it happened again last night. Until somebody emerges in that role, this team is going to have nights like Tuesday -- particularly on the road. Aside from the Auburn game, this team has really struggled away from the McLeod.

The lack of post touches falls on everyone's shoulders. The guards aren't doing a good job of getting it in there consistently, and I think Koch and Eglseder both need to do a better job of demanding the ball. It seems when they get it in there and a team doubles down, they pass it out. However, instead of posting up again and feeding the post, they settle for an outside jumper. And with the way they're shooting the 3, it's not working.

In terms of Iowa, this team is much improved. Lickliter's style is boring but effective. They definitely aren't fancy, but they are sound with their defensive principles, they have multiple shooters on the floor, they take away the other team's strength, they are PATIENT and well-coached. This Iowa team will win 20 games this season. And a year or two from now, they'll be in hunt for a league title.

[UNIAlum95]

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5. More O'Rear. Period.

Lucas is playing on a bum ankle and isn't where he needs to be. Otherwise, I'd be for the minutes. We need to get him back to 100% for his intensity.

[Panther789]

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This Iowa team will win 20 games this season. And a year or two from now, they'll be in hunt for a league title.

You had me until you got here.

[Newshound]

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Here's how Iowa will win 20 games. They are 8-2 right now.
Beat Iowa State, Western Illinois at home; possibly at Drake, too. Give them two of three (10 wins)
Beat Indiana, Minnesota, N'western, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State at home (16 wins)
Win at Northwestern, at Indiana (18 wins)
Win one of these games: at Michigan, Wisconsin at home, at Penn State, Mich. State at home, at Illinois, Purdue at home (19 wins)
Win one game in the Big Ten tournament (20 wins)

It's not that far-fetched. The Big Ten isn't that strong past Michigan State, Purdue and maybe Wisconsin.

[Panther789]

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Here's how Iowa will win 20 games. They are 8-2 right now.
Beat Iowa State, Western Illinois at home; possibly at Drake, too. Give them two of three (10 wins)
Beat Indiana, Minnesota, N'western, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State at home (16 wins)
Win at Northwestern, at Indiana (18 wins)
Win one of these games: at Michigan, Wisconsin at home, at Penn State, Mich. State at home, at Illinois, Purdue at home (19 wins)
Win one game in the Big Ten tournament (20 wins)

It's not that far-fetched. The Big Ten isn't that strong past Michigan State, Purdue and maybe Wisconsin.

It's certainly not impossible and it might even be somewhat realistic. To be fair, in the first post you said "will" which is different from "not that far-fetched." If the over under is 19.5, I'm definately taking the under.

Additionally, I would be shocked if Iowa finishes within 2 games of the conference champ in either this year or the next 2.

I believe I read that the Big 10 is 2nd to the ACC right now in RPI, and you are completely ignoring OSU who beat Miami on the road and ND on a neutral court. Certainly not a win Iowa can chalk up.

All of that said, I agreed with your earlier statements about the improvements on that team.

[MediaPanther]

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we can still win the valley. the conference blows.

Technically that's true considering the conference season hasn't even started yet, but I'm sure not going to hold my breath.

After our offensive output against Iowa, I have no reason to believe we can score 30 against SIU's defense.

[06panther10]

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Here's how Iowa will win 20 games. They are 8-2 right now.
Beat Iowa State, Western Illinois at home; possibly at Drake, too. Give them two of three (10 wins)
Beat Indiana, Minnesota, N'western, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State at home (16 wins)
Win at Northwestern, at Indiana (18 wins)
Win one of these games: at Michigan, Wisconsin at home, at Penn State, Mich. State at home, at Illinois, Purdue at home (19 wins)
Win one game in the Big Ten tournament (20 wins)

It's not that far-fetched. The Big Ten isn't that strong past Michigan State, Purdue and maybe Wisconsin.

Minn. is decent and coached by Tubby Smith, Michigan has already beaten Duke, Ohio State has already beaten Notre Dame. I dont see Iowa winning those games.

Iowa is not a good team, and will not be a good team this year. And they still whipped us.

[9YRPLAN]

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wait...i thought the big ten sucked?

[06panther10]

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big ten football does suck. basketball isnt a whole lot better. Just a little better.

[9YRPLAN]

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Ali is shooting 2% better from three point range than his former JUCO teammate and former UNI commit Jermain Davis. I did NOT see that coming.

[Jet]

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More Lucas, Good one.His scoring and rebounding is about half of Jordan's is with roughly the same mins. played.

[run&blade]

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UNI shot like dung last season, they moved the 3 point line back for this season. I was stupid to think they would be better.

Start the Valley off poorly and UNI basketball will be on life support. If they throw T-shirts into the crowd the people cleaning the place will be able to take them home.

[SteinPizza]

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big ten football does suck. basketball isnt a whole lot better. Just a little better.

Big Ten B Ball is better. There's no Big Ten FB team that could beat the equivalent of Duke. I say this everytime, but I'm a fan of the Big Ten, so I want to see them do better. That said, you have to be realistic too. I can't see a way that USC doesn't crush Penn St., as an example.

But Newshound was right. Iowa does seem to have a lot of young talent that will be interesting to watch when they gel. A proven, experienced coach helps too. Not a knock on Jake, but he didn't have Lick's resume when he took the job.