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  • Re: UNI at UE

    i find it hard to believe that a 30-something first-time head coach doesnt learn something every game

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    • Re: UNI at UE

      Originally posted by Coachdags View Post
      He has not changed, he is the same Coach he was at the begining of the year.
      I would agree...I think he has figured out some rotations, but still the same coach...just not too much to complain about when they win.
      GO PANTHERS!

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      • Re: UNI at UE

        Originally posted by 9YRPLAN View Post
        i find it hard to believe that a 30-something first-time head coach doesnt learn something every game
        I'm sure he does, but his Game Planning, His Coaching Principals, His Teaching Skills, Game Situation Coaching, Subsitution Patterns (when and why)......are all the same as they were at the begining of the Year......

        I find it humurous, because we make more shots, perform less turnovers, get a few breaks to go are way, hustle and little bit more, and gain some gametime confidence (players)........that all of a sudden Ben is a different Coach....

        I have know him since he was a H.S. Senior at Mayville, North Dakota, over 20 years.......He may have grown but his playing, coaching, teaching principals remain the same.

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          Originally posted by Coachdags View Post
          I'm sure he does, but his Game Planning, His Coaching Principals, His Teaching Skills, Game Situation Coaching, Subsitution Patterns (when and why)......are all the same as they were at the begining of the Year......

          I find it humurous, because we make more shots, perform less turnovers, get a few breaks to go are way, hustle and little bit more, and gain some gametime confidence (players)........that all of a sudden Ben is a different Coach....

          I have know him since he was a H.S. Senior at Mayville, North Dakota, over 20 years.......He may have grown but his playing, coaching, teaching principals remain the same.
          Your absolutly right! The only things that have changed is that the players are buying into and executing the game plan. I also think these players are really starting to understanding each other and it translates into better decisions on the court. The exciting aspect to the players performance is that they are still improving. IMO Jake did a great job the last two years just to have a winning record, now that he has the right type of player on the court, we are all starting to see the results. The future looks bright.

          I don't have a problem with fans that doubted Jake, they are welcome to their opinion. However, I do think it's crappy that some not only doubted Jake and the team they refused to cheer for the team until they proved they deserved it. That's just wrong! GO PANTHERS!

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          • Re: UNI at UE

            Originally posted by Coachdags View Post
            I'm sure he does, but his Game Planning, His Coaching Principals, His Teaching Skills, Game Situation Coaching, Subsitution Patterns (when and why)......are all the same as they were at the begining of the Year......

            I find it humurous, because we make more shots, perform less turnovers, get a few breaks to go are way, hustle and little bit more, and gain some gametime confidence (players)........that all of a sudden Ben is a different Coach....

            I have know him since he was a H.S. Senior at Mayville, North Dakota, over 20 years.......He may have grown but his playing, coaching, teaching principals remain the same.
            Dags, as much as you want to make this a "Dags was right, everyone else was wrong" winning streak, it wont work. There were plenty of people sticking up for Jake during the tough times, most more vocal than you, and they are taking this in stride, realizing that everyone is happy to see this happen. It is silly to turn every thread into that argument, just like it was silly to say that Mac's teams were just lucky.

            In any event, I had a chance to get to the game last night, and I was very impressed. We really controlled the game from start to finish, which isn't something you do very often on the road in this league.

            I'll say what Ive said over the last couple of games. This team is playing the best basketball we have seen in years right now, and Jake and the guys deserve a ton of credit for that. Let's keep this thing rolling.

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            • Re: UNI at UE

              I think even Coach Jac himself would admit that things are different now then they were at the beginning of the year. Every good coach will tell you that they are a student of the game and that they are always looking to become better. He knows his players better now than he did at the beginning of the season, there for he has changed his way of coaching. Even if it is just getting certain guys in at certain times or a "rotation" as many basketball minds call it (not saying that I am a basketball guy cause i'm not.)

              Again, maybe "mad" was a poor choice of words but anyone that says that they were not dissapointed after the Indiana State loss is just lying "EVERYBODY" on here was. No one was going, "whooo hooo", "we just lost at home to a cellar dwellar!"
              Illinois State Fan at a St. Louis White Castle 3:45AM Saturday March 6th:

              "White Castle?" "more like Black Castle..."

              You stay classy Redbirds.

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              • Re: UNI at UE

                RPI UPDATE - Now at 98!

                Lets keep this thing falling.

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                • Re: UNI at UE

                  Originally posted by jegbomb52 View Post
                  I think even Coach Jac himself would admit that things are different now then they were at the beginning of the year. Every good coach will tell you that they are a student of the game and that they are always looking to become better. He knows his players better now than he did at the beginning of the season, there for he has changed his way of coaching. Even if it is just getting certain guys in at certain times or a "rotation" as many basketball minds call it (not saying that I am a basketball guy cause i'm not.)

                  Again, maybe "mad" was a poor choice of words but anyone that says that they were not dissapointed after the Indiana State loss is just lying "EVERYBODY" on here was. No one was going, "whooo hooo", "we just lost at home to a cellar dwellar!"
                  Of course I was disappointed; calling me a liar because I wasn't "mad" seems juvenile.

                  Also, I agree that Jake has learned more about his team and coaching from game to game. However, I doubt that what he has been preaching to the players has changed much from day one. Although he has learned, he's still essentially the same coach with the same philosophies.

                  I still don't know if the anti-Jake folks were wrong; it's far too premature to make that case, which of course, is the point that several were making here in the first place.
                  Last edited by UNI Prof; 01-14-2009, 10:57 AM.
                  TH1974: This guy was all-UNI, and wanted to show it by pretending to play a non-existant musical instrument in public.

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                  • Re: UNI at UE

                    I've made the same comment over the last few games:

                    "this looks like an entirely different team"

                    Coaching looks the same. Players look different.

                    A lot more hustle. The bigs are making better moves on the block. Guards are taking smarter shots and attacking the hole more agressively.
                    Selling a lot of old UNI stuff here: http://www.panthernation.com/showthread.php?t=65762

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                    • Re: UNI at UE

                      Originally posted by Coachdags View Post
                      I'm sure he does, but his Game Planning, His Coaching Principals, His Teaching Skills, Game Situation Coaching, Subsitution Patterns (when and why)......are all the same as they were at the begining of the Year......

                      I find it humurous, because we make more shots, perform less turnovers, get a few breaks to go are way, hustle and little bit more, and gain some gametime confidence (players)........that all of a sudden Ben is a different Coach....

                      I have know him since he was a H.S. Senior at Mayville, North Dakota, over 20 years.......He may have grown but his playing, coaching, teaching principals remain the same.
                      I find it humorous that during all the discussions that have been had this year regarding Jacobson and his criticism, you've been relatively silent. Now all of a sudden, we're winning games and you've come on to get your digs in. Why the need to rub anything in anyone's faces?

                      I criticized Jacobson early in the season. I've criticized him over the last few years. Was I wrong to do so? I don't think so. I don't have to take back a single thing I've said. But that doesn't mean I have to put my tail between my legs and run and hide from anyone on this board. It seems like this team is working together better and Jacobson has made a few improvements, specifically, his substitution patterns. Kwadzo, Ali, Johnny, and Adam are getting 30+ a game during this stretch and that wasn't happening early in the year. The players that can carry us, are being allowed to stay on the court, get in a groove, and do just that, carry us.

                      And NO, I won't jump off the bandwagon at the first sight of trouble. Jacobson has bought himself a LOT of time in my book. The last few years, we have been unable to consistently win BIG games. We've been unable to go on little streaks like this, string a few wins together, play well together consistently. In my opinion, the common denominator had to be Jacobson?

                      But now, we've won 5 straight. He's shown (SIU, CU) that he can get this team together and win big games this season. I won't take back a single thing I said earlier but I also won't let you rub it in my face now that we're on a winning streak.

                      If you want to be the better fan for never having complained about Jacobson . . . go ahead, give yourself that title. But I'm going to continue enjoying this little streak and would appreciate it if you would let me.

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                      • Re: UNI at UE

                        Originally posted by Rob Weiss View Post
                        I've made the same comment over the last few games:

                        "this looks like an entirely different team"

                        Coaching looks the same. Players look different.

                        A lot more hustle. The bigs are making better moves on the block. Guards are taking smarter shots and attacking the hole more agressively.
                        I agree. The players look like they are reading each other differently and understanding each other differently. We just look really good. I still think there's something to the fact that Ali, Kwadzo, Johnny, and Adam are getting 30+ a game during this stretch (something that wasn't always happening early), but eh . . .

                        The thing I don't quite agree with, is "the coaching looks same". Some people on here suggest that Jacobson's "coaching strategy" is the end all and all that it has taken for this winning streak to happen is for the players to "buy into it". I don't know about that.

                        I agree that most of his coaching style looks the same. Same plays, same defensive intensity, but to imply that Jacobson doesn't have to adjust and modify his coaching is insane, in my opinion. There's more to coaching than simply folding your arms and waiting for players to buy into your "system". Then when things start to go well, smile and say "Well, I told you, they just needed to buy into the system."

                        You're right, the players look better suddenly. But to imply that all Jacobson had to do was sit back and wait (not saying you, Rob, necessarily), is kind of silly.

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                        • Re: UNI at UE

                          Originally posted by jman2004 View Post
                          But to imply that all Jacobson had to do was sit back and wait (not saying you, Rob, necessarily), is kind of silly.
                          Who has said that?
                          TH1974: This guy was all-UNI, and wanted to show it by pretending to play a non-existant musical instrument in public.

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                          • Re: UNI at UE

                            Originally posted by jman2004 View Post

                            I agree that most of his coaching style looks the same. Same plays, same defensive intensity, but to imply that Jacobson doesn't have to adjust and modify his coaching is insane, in my opinion. There's more to coaching than simply folding your arms and waiting for players to buy into your "system". Then when things start to go well, smile and say "Well, I told you, they just needed to buy into the system."

                            You're right, the players look better suddenly. But to imply that all Jacobson had to do was sit back and wait (not saying you, Rob, necessarily), is kind of silly.

                            I'm not saying he didn't have to do anything, but I think most of the issues were on the players end. (notice I didn't feel this way until we improved. I wasn't sure where the blame should be put. They just look like completely different players.)
                            Selling a lot of old UNI stuff here: http://www.panthernation.com/showthread.php?t=65762

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                            • Re: UNI at UE

                              Originally posted by panther2317
                              Evansville was at 38 before the game last night...so they really helped us.

                              So...here's what a crock the RPI can be for helping teams like UNI. Part of the formula is your opponent's opponent's record.

                              So...now UNI has Arkansas and North Carolina attached to their RPI. Arkansas 12-2 with wins over Texas and Oklahoma and a LOSS to Missouri State.

                              North Carolina who is 14-2 currently and the former #1 team in the country. Thanks to the other Valley schools for getting teams like this on their schedule.
                              Good catch, 2317. We've beaten Mizzou St. once, which in turn beat Arkansas. That has to help Mizzou St.'s strenghth of schedule component, which in turn helps ours and the MVC's. Does anyone know where the conference RPI sits right now?

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                              • Re: UNI at UE

                                Originally posted by UNI Prof View Post
                                Of course I was disappointed; calling me a liar because I wasn't "mad" seems juvenile.

                                Also, I agree that Jake has learned more about his team and coaching from game to game. However, I doubt that what he has been preaching to the players has changed much from day one. Although he has learned, he's still essentially the same coach with the same philosophies.

                                I still don't know if the anti-Jake folks were wrong; it's far too premature to make that case, which of course, is the point that several were making here in the first place.
                                Yes, I know that to say you were a liar because you weren't "mad" was juvenile. Thats why if you would have read my last post I was as mature as I could be and came out and said that I was wrong and shouldn't have used the term "mad."

                                To not read all of someones post seems "juvenile" to me.
                                Illinois State Fan at a St. Louis White Castle 3:45AM Saturday March 6th:

                                "White Castle?" "more like Black Castle..."

                                You stay classy Redbirds.

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