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  • #76
    Re: Mass exodus at Iowa?

    Originally posted by in_the_stands View Post
    I still can't believe Bowlsby just let Davis's contract expire.
    He did what the fanatic base wanted. NCAA appearances and first round wins were not enough, Iowa is pre-ordained to be a perennial Final Four school.

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    • #77
      Re: Mass exodus at Iowa?

      davis should not have recruited joey range. it was the final straw.

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      • #78
        Re: Mass exodus at Iowa?

        Davis would have gotten at the VERY least a short extension if he wouldn't have recruited Joey Range. Recruiting him made him insubbordinate. It was an easy move for Bowlsby...

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        • #79
          Re: Mass exodus at Iowa?

          Originally posted by Brett Crawford View Post
          Davis would have gotten at the VERY least a short extension if he wouldn't have recruited Joey Range. Recruiting him made him insubbordinate. It was an easy move for Bowlsby...
          What were the issues with Range? Normally, I wouldn't expect an AD to be involved in recruiting like this.

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          • #80
            Re: Mass exodus at Iowa?

            Originally posted by Brett Crawford View Post
            Davis would have gotten at the VERY least a short extension if he wouldn't have recruited Joey Range. Recruiting him made him insubbordinate. It was an easy move for Bowlsby...
            what is the whole story? sorry I am ingorant about this?

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            • #81
              Re: Mass exodus at Iowa?

              I don't know much of the backstory either. Didn't Range fail out of Iowa after one season? He had trouble with the law as well . . . didn't think he was quite the upstanding citizen, but don't all colleges recruit their fair share of those type? What was it about Range that made things different?

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              • #82
                Re: Mass exodus at Iowa?

                Originally posted by Khan4Cats View Post
                He did what the fanatic base wanted. NCAA appearances and first round wins were not enough, Iowa is pre-ordained to be a perennial Final Four school.
                This is the story that I've heard from people who were Iowa season ticket holders. Bowlsby thought that Iowa was better than a 2nd Round NCAA Tournament team, and Davis wasn't going to be able to get them over the hump. He thought they could do better than Davis.

                I can understand Bowlsby wanting the program to have some years like Iowa had seen in the past, but if you're going to replace a guy who can consistently take your team to the NCAA Tournament why would you think Alford was going to be the guy who could recruit the kind of players George Raveling did, and be a better game coach than Raveling was. Alford had no recruiting track record, and limited coaching experience. The hire made no sense, and Iowa had the money to spend to land a really good coach, and Alford crippled the program. In the end, and accidently, Bowlsby did UNI a favor.
                Last edited by DWadle1983; 04-01-2009, 07:56 PM.
                "Lot of people talked about Ohio State or Georgetown or Michigan State or whoever, [or] Maryland in our bracket. When the brackets came out, the first team I looked at was Northern Iowa," Kansas Coach Bill Self.

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                • #83
                  Re: Mass exodus at Iowa?

                  Joey Range + Rodrick Thompson= a great Galesburg Silver Streaks basketball team.

                  The Illinois HS Class AA Tourney those guys' senior season was unreal. Corey Maggette (Duke, then NBA), Quentin Richardson (DePaul, then NBA), Dennis Gates (Cal), Najeeb Echols (Missouri, then ILSU), Cordell Henry (Marquette), Sean Harrington (Illinois), Roger Powell (Illinois), Lucas Johnson (Illinois), and Kevin Frye (Xavier)...it was a fun one to watch.
                  The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.

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                  • #84
                    Re: Mass exodus at Iowa?

                    i believe Thompson played at Carver until he transferred to G-burg for his senior year.

                    BB ended up being spot on about Range- questionable (at best) character, no interest in being a student, shady background, etc...it was no surprise that he was gone after one solid year.

                    man, i miss the days when iowa used to have talent. even after the sweet 16 season, the starting backcourt should have been oliver, range, and jeff walker. all top-50 recruits. plus davis who left after his freshman year.

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                    • #85
                      Re: Mass exodus at Iowa?

                      Originally posted by Panthers to the Bone View Post
                      Joey Range + Rodrick Thompson= a great Galesburg Silver Streaks basketball team.

                      The Illinois HS Class AA Tourney those guys' senior season was unreal. Corey Maggette (Duke, then NBA), Quentin Richardson (DePaul, then NBA), Dennis Gates (Cal), Najeeb Echols (Missouri, then ILSU), Cordell Henry (Marquette), Sean Harrington (Illinois), Roger Powell (Illinois), Lucas Johnson (Illinois), and Kevin Frye (Xavier)...it was a fun one to watch.
                      Not sure if their teams made the tourney, but current NBA players Bobby Simmons and Stephen Hunter would've been that age too, although Hunter may have been a year behind. And, that's just the DePaul players. They had another guard who was really good too, and they formed the DePaul equivalent of the Fab 5. That's why I mildly laughed when people here couldn't understand why Bizoukas went to DePaul...that school has some serious lineage and access to talent.

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                      • #86
                        Re: Mass exodus at Iowa?

                        Kennedy's class that year was Q, bobby simmons, and lance williams (not a guard). i think hunter was the next year.

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                        • #87
                          Re: Mass exodus at Iowa?

                          Don't forget Darius Miles and Frankie Williams.
                          The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.

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                          • #88
                            Re: Mass exodus at Iowa?

                            Originally posted by Khan4Cats View Post
                            He did what the fanatic base wanted. NCAA appearances and first round wins were not enough, Iowa is pre-ordained to be a perennial Final Four school.
                            There was discontent with Davis, but nobody wanted to trash recruiting. The facts of life in D-I basketball (even then) are that you keep your coach in good status contract-wise, and if a change needs to be made, you bite the bullet and buy him out.

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                            • #89
                              Re: Mass exodus at Iowa?

                              Originally posted by in_the_stands View Post
                              There was discontent with Davis, but nobody wanted to trash recruiting. The facts of life in D-I basketball (even then) are that you keep your coach in good status contract-wise, and if a change needs to be made, you bite the bullet and buy him out.
                              Like I said, it seems Bowlsby did what the fans wanted rather than just flat out firing him/buying him out. If he was insubordinate, then their is just cause to fire him without a buyout. Instead they tried to leave Davis dangling and hope he resigned instead the end result was letting the recruiting process wither on the vine and probably allowed Hinrich and Collison to both go to Kansas.

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                              • #90
                                Re: Mass exodus at Iowa?

                                Originally posted by Khan4Cats View Post
                                If he was insubordinate, then their is just cause to fire him without a buyout.
                                Agree.

                                Originally posted by Khan4Cats View Post
                                ... and probably allowed Hinrich and Collison to both go to Kansas.
                                If you want to make an Iowa fan cry, bring this up.

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