Jake Kelly eligible for Trees this year

[bigticket]

Re: Jake Kelly eligible for Trees this year

what does this have to with coralville? the point is that hes in the valley now and we have to play him twice.

At the end of last year he played like a top 10 player in any league, regardless of region, conference, state.

This guy can play ball and his "value" all depends on how Indiana State uses him.

I would have loved to see him play for UNI.

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Jake Kelly eligible for Trees this year

he is at his best with the ball in his hands and if ISU is smart they will give him freedom to create, whether thats from the 1,2, or 3 spot.

[Purrrrrfect]

Re: Jake Kelly eligible for Trees this year

He's not average. He is a good player, as is Tony Freeman. But both of them are far from being locks to be all conference.

co-dual fan quote of the day

[DWadle1983]

Re: Jake Kelly eligible for Trees this year

im really surprised you guys feel this way. he lit up uni the last two years. there is no one in the MVC that can match his size at PG and he averaged over 20 PPG after moving to PG last year.

i honestly cant believe you have josh young on that list but yet call kelly average. that is just a complete lack of basketball knowledge.

I was having a conversation with a fellow UNI Grad (he's Class of 1984) Iowa fan, Iowa basketball and football season ticket holder, sort of follows UNI, and anyway, he finds it funny that people think that Freeman and Kelly are so good. His take on it is that while they would be better than average MVC players, he's not sure why people think they are going to be among the best players in the MVC. Commented, "Well maybe if they were at UNI they could start for UNI, but they wouldn't be their best players. They're not better than Koch or that PG from Minnesota."

[96' Alum]

Re: Jake Kelly eligible for Trees this year

But, but, but........Kelly, and Freeman are Hawks, and we all know that, in spite of the records (we all know that was Alford's fault anyway), they played for IOWA, darn it.......That puts them WAY over anything that UNI would have.

Heck, the Valley should feel lucky that they are willing to play in the league, it is a serious step down for them.

Nevermind that Kelly was the ONLY guy willing to take the big shot for Iowa last year, and that Freeman was the only scorer the year before, that is irrelevant, THEY WERE HAWKS, so they are better than anything that UNI could ever come up with.

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Jake Kelly eligible for Trees this year

because we all know the coaches/media members who voted them all-conference despite playing on a terrible and irrelevant team are all iowa grads.

some of you are an embarassment to the uni fanbase. and we wonder why people think we have an inferiority complex.

[GoCatz!]

Re: Jake Kelly eligible for Trees this year

I have watched very little Iowa basketball the last few years and I really only have one full game memory of either of those guys and it is of BOTH of them absolutely torching UNI in the McLeod. I think they are going to be very good players in the Valley, but how good really depends on how each one of them buys into the team concept. If being a great basketball player led you to conference domination, then Osiris and P'unk would have been dancing last year, not the Panthers.

My only prediction for this year is that I highly doubt any team is going to rattle off 11 conference wins in a row.

[Panther789]

Re: Jake Kelly eligible for Trees this year

because we all know the coaches/media members who voted them all-conference despite playing on a terrible and irrelevant team are all iowa grads.

some of you are an embarassment to the uni fanbase. and we wonder why people think we have an inferiority complex.

Who has the complex here? Both the coaches and the media select 3 Big Ten all conference teams. 15 players. Jake made none of these lists.

He was selected as 1 of 8 players to receive honorable mention honors. This of course was evidence enough for you to proclaim that he will probably be pre-season first-team all MVC.

I think Kelly will be a very nice player in this league, and potentially one of the best few players in the league at some point, but I would be shocked if he is first-team all conference in the pre-season.

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Jake Kelly eligible for Trees this year

fine. hes going to suck. freeman too. just forget about it.

[UNIAlum95]

Re: Jake Kelly eligible for Trees this year

He's not average. He is a good player, as is Tony Freeman. But both of them are far from being locks to be all conference.

Well said. The talent level in this league is much higher than it used to be. If Kelly is going to be all conference, he is really going to have to earn it.

IMO, Kelly will be a very, very good player in the Valley. Not too many 6'6" small forwards in the league that can play at his level. There are more than in the past, but he's still a good talent in the league. He won't be preseason all-conference, but he makes Indiana State a very tough team. Marshall, Stinson, Kelly, Martin, and Richard is a very good starting five. I really like the Trees' team.

Exactly right. He won't be a preseason all conference selection. There is too much returning talent. Right now I could see him as a second team by the end of the year. He'll have to have an incredible year to move into the first team.

[96' Alum]

Re: Jake Kelly eligible for Trees this year

fine. hes going to suck. freeman too. just forget about it.

Wow, nice response, taking your ball and going home, huh?

He was a decent player on a BAD team. On a team with few offensive options, he was the only guy that could create a shot for himself.

That doesn't mean that he is bad, but to think that he will be all conference, in the Valley, just because he scored some points the last half of the season at Iowa, is completely illogical (par for the course from what I can tell).

[GonzoCat]

Re: Jake Kelly eligible for Trees this year

I don't think Kelly will be that good of a player with the limited time he has for basketball now that he is spending most of his time caring for his family. That's why he was granted a hardship waiver by the NCAA right, so he could take care of his family?

Just thought I'd touch on the origin of the thread. The NCAA once again shows how inconsistently it is in the application of its rules. They make them up on a case by case basis as they go along. There's no justification for Kelly not sitting a year. I'm sorry his mom died a couple years ago, but being closer to a persons grave or being homesick are not valid hardship exemptions.

[Panther789]

Re: Jake Kelly eligible for Trees this year

fine. hes going to suck. freeman too. just forget about it.

This is too cute. Almost everyone, including myself, has gone out of their way to say that Kelly will be a nice player in this league.

We have also pointed out that your initial statement is unlikely to be true. You have come to that realization, and so you did what you always do. You paint a broad brush about people on this board, and do your best to characterize their statements as irrational.

[Kyle]

Re: Jake Kelly eligible for Trees this year

Kelly will be a huge addition for the Trees, but this doesn't necessarily mean he will be a huge addition for the league.

I see Kelly having an impact similar to Shy Ely. A very good guard on a lower-middle tier MVC team.

1st team MVC will be:

Osiris Eldridge
P’Allen Stinnett
Adam Koch
Kevin Dillard
Kwadzo Ahelegbe

[06panther10]

Re: Jake Kelly eligible for Trees this year

fine. hes going to suck. freeman too. just forget about it.

9yr, quit being a frickin baby. It's alright if people don't agree with you. This doesn't really have anything to do with the Hawks. Many of us know that there alot of good teams/players in the MVC right now and they are not going to walk right in and take over. Just because some don't want to crown them as first team all-conference already does not meant those people are an "embarassment" to UNI.

They are both really good players. And they will fit it well with each team, and make both of those teams much better.