UNI vs. DePaul

[Panther-Sheik]

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Wow, what a short season basketball was this year. I don't even remember senior night! Oh well...there is always next year.

[Chitown Panther]

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the stud for DePaul had 19 rebounds......OUCH!!!!!!!!

[06panther10]

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I think we need more athletes. Thats it.

We preach defense, defense, and more defense. Which is great, and I agree with that thinking. But we need some more athletic players, that can score and play D. We shouldn't have to rely on holding teams to 49 points to win our games.

Maybe this loss is a blessing. Playing anything like we did today, would lead to an absolute embarassment against a super athletic team like Tenn.

We gotta beat Siena at home, and look decent at Iowa State.

[BCPanther]

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So...

We're conceding the Iowa State game already?? Come on Folks its one loss. We are still fine!!

[06panther10]

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So...

We're conceding the Iowa State game already?? Come on Folks its one loss. We are still fine!!

Have you seen Iowa State play? They are big, at all positions. They have an NBA 1st round pick playing. And they can shoot the three.

Not to mention it is in Hilton, where IIRC we have one, count it, one win all time.

It will be a tough one to win. We can do it, but I'm not counting on it.

[SpanishMoon]

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I don't think UNI plays as much as a team as they should. I don't think they share the ball as well as they should. Jordan is not a black whole. Throw it in to him he will kick it back out if he is not open for the shot!

[06panther10]

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The fact that you come on here, after a game in which Jordan went 1-9, and demand that he needs to get the ball more, simply proves that you cannot be a real person...

[Casey'sitsallgood]

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Agree with Luckycat, Sheik and Brett. Yes, this is a very tough loss. I can't believe we shot that bad, but, what do you tell your team. They're doing everything they can and the shots just aren't falling. Tough luck there. As far as relaxing a bit, guys, it's one game. We're 1-1 on the season. If this was a BracketBuster type game, I'd say yeah, we should panic a little. Yes I realize this is a very tough loss but let's move on from it. My sources (ESPN.com) tell me BC has lost to St. Joe's. It sure would be nice to catch them and get the ACC rpi/sos/etc...

[Casey'sitsallgood]

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Also, Purdue up 2 on SDSU at half.

[UNIChippewa]

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So, speaking of our lack of athleticism, whatever happened to Antonio Jones?!!? I asked this in its own thread and nobody answered my question as to why he's no longer on the roster. From what I read of his skill set, he was a very athletic guard.

And, speaking of athleticism again, and this is the old elephant in the room....but when you have two black (or African-American) players in your rotation, pretty much every team we play is going to be more athletic. Yes, I know it's a stereotype, but stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. Heck, look at Iowa State. That backcourt is ten times more talented than last year's because they (we, I'm a dual fan) actually has scholarship players who are much, much more athletic than guys like Brian Petersen and Sean Haluska (don't get me wrong, those two played with true heart and grit, but we're not a Big 12-caliber backcourt).

Just food for thought....

[06panther10]

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So, speaking of our lack of athleticism, whatever happened to Antonio Jones?!!? I asked this in its own thread and nobody answered my question as to why he's no longer on the roster. From what I read of his skill set, he was a very athletic guard.

And, speaking of athleticism again, and this is the old elephant in the room....but when you have two black (or African-American) players in your rotation, pretty much every team we play is going to be more athletic. Yes, I know it's a stereotype, but stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. Heck, look at Iowa State. That backcourt is ten times more talented than last year's because they (we, I'm a dual fan) actually has scholarship players who are much, much more athletic than guys like Brian Petersen and Sean Haluska (don't get me wrong, those two played with true heart and grit, but we're not a Big 12-caliber backcourt).

Just food for thought....

You are right on IMO. Antonio would have been a good addition, and a much needed type of addition. The details of his departure never really came out IIRC. But I believe it was some sort of academic issue.

[blien]

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i was at the game, made the trip down.we looked great the first half, I think our guys were spooked a little by the big guy from depaul,not following through on shots, egelseder had some ok looks and should have gotten a few. i think if kwadzo could have driven the lane more like the first half it would have opened things up. depaul was physical. we noticed koch had his finger taped as if they were jammed, he wasn't holding on to the ball real good.

[dragon]

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I just hope the Valley can get some key non con wins that will help. Did we have any last year?

[Panthers to the Bone]

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Tough loss. Not happy with the loss. I had a chance to watch the game, and there were alot of shots close to the bucket that were missed...probably similar to what blien was saying that they were spooked by Koshwal. UNI plays inside out as reported before. Open up the inside game (either post feeds or cutting to the hoop), which both happened early and often. Those opened up close shots or kick outs for mostly wide open threes. These things occurred, and in the first half, they went down. In the second half, those shots weren't falling. KA was driving, as was Moran and A.Koch and Kerwin. The shots definitely weren't falling. The turnovers seem to be a big thing talked about right now. They were tough b/c of the crucial times they came, but UNI only had 9 against a physical Big East team. Not too shabby...under the season average from last year.

I think the bright spot is that this team has some depth that should be available come Saturday and Monday. I have to wonder if the change in travel plans didn't throw the team off a little. I hope they were able to get into the gym on Thursday, but I did read where Tennessee flew to VI on Wednesday, shot in the gym then, and then practiced at a local HS on Thursday. Makes me wonder if they weren't able to get in the gym on Thursday to shoot before a game on Friday.

Anyway, the freshmen earned some more minutes tonight. Sonnen seemed very strong with the ball, and both of James' threes were open shots. Moran is definitely in a funk to begin the season shooting wise. Hopefully, he comes out of it...soon. He's too tough of a competitor for him not to be on the floor and contributing, but also he's too good for him not to snap out of it.

Jordan shot over 50% from the field last year, and that number will improve this year. So, two games into the season and he's not at that mark, I'm not worried...things will improve.

The silver lining in losing this first game is that UNI has a chance to get two more wins. East Carolina (from C-USA) and Boston College (from the ACC). You can't tell me that a win over BC would be a 'good' win come tourney time. It might even overshadow the DePaul loss. Regardless, the Panthers need to get this next one against ECU. A matchup against BC would be great. One loss to a Big East squad (even a team picked last) is not the end of the season...nor does it make a season. The great thing about power packed tourneys like this is that you even if you slip up in a game, you're still going to be playing very solid teams.

Jake is going to the bench early this year, which is going to help develop depth that was important last year to have (no one averaged over 30 min last year, I believe). This wasn't happening in the Mac regime when guys were averaging 35+ min/game. People got PO'd when they faltered down the stretch and in the MVC Tourney the last two years. That can create some early season inconsistency, but allows for fresh legs and greater consistency when it matters. DePaul played 3 guys 36 min or more and another at 29 minutes. UNI had only one, Kwadzo playing 31 minutes. The season is too long to get down about this too long. UNI still has a chance to knock off teams from the C-USA and ACC (presumably).

Am I disappointed in the outcome yesterday? Absolutely. Is this season over? No. Heck, this tourney isn't even over. UNI still has opportunities against Iowa, Iowa State, Siena, and Wyoming (and Bracket Busters). The difference is that 4 of those 5 are at home. And another against an ACC team too.

PS- My post was just my opinion..it wasn't all fact. I'm not questioning anyone's fanhood. I'm not drinking too much kook-aid. I'm claiming UNI will be in the NCAA's, and I'm not saying there aren't some things that could be improved upon. I don't think I used too much history in my post either. I think that covers most of the basics from last season.

[OhNewby]

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Great post PTTB...I think 2 more wins in ST and we're back on track for an at-large bid, even if we can only win 1 of 2 versus ISU and Sienna...