UNI vs. DePaul

[UNI Prof]

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It stinks that we lost a game we should have won. It's difficult to grasp how we shot, and apparently rebounded, so poorly.

[TravelingPanther]

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sure they have time. If they are banking on winning the MVC tournament.

or beating Sienna, Iowa, Iowa State, Wyoming..

[TravelingPanther]

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The outcome of the Iowa game only effected one game, this game effected future games. There is a big difference.

Not really. Both were "bad" losses. We won't have as good of a SoS, but that won't be what keeps us out.

[Casey'sitsallgood]

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It stinks that we lost a game we should have won. It's difficult to grasp how we shot, and apparently rebounded, so poorly.

Agreed. It just seems like a different team walked out of the locker room for that second half...

[06panther10]

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No, we don't, but we have plenty of chances this year against Sienna, Iowa State and possibly the bracket buster.

Did it occur to anyone the DePaul might not be as bad as last year?

I just get tired of people sounding like 13 year olds who switch teams every time their "team" loses.

Who's switching teams?

I don't have to be blind or delusional to be fan. I'm just being realistic. I realize we have plenty of other chances, but this tournament was our best chance to play some good teams and get good wins. But we had to win this game to get those chances.

Hopefully we can win the next couple of games and at least get out of here with some confidence.

[SteinPizza]

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I don't know what upsets me more...that we shot 32% from the floor or that we shot 56% from the line...both terrible!!!

Look at the box score. Only two players shot any free throws (OK, three if you count J. Koch's 0-1). Jordan shot NONE. I'm not trying to pile on Jordan, but he must have played a real poor game if he went 1-9 from the field and was NEVER FOULED. The only conclusion I can draw is that DePaul had more than enough athletic talent to snuff our guys without fouling. Which leads me to this...

I tried to tell people here last spring that this game would be closer than you thought, with the real possibility of a loss. DePaul is a Big East team that recruits very athletic players from an area LOADED with talent, and has an NBA caliber kid playing Center. A team like that can be very dangerous to a team like UNI that's athletically challenged (by comparison) and has to rely on perfect team execution to win.

I'm off my soapbox. Did anyone drive and try to create today? I thought I saw something about us shooting nothing but jumpers.

[DWadle1983]

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Traveling Panther is right that this game while a horrible loss isn't the season. When I looked at their schedule, I could see UNI losing three non-conference games, Tennessee if they played them in this tournament, Siena, and Iowa State. To get this one back, UNI needs to beat Siena or Iowa State, and hopefully avoid any more bad non-conference losses, but this isn't the season.

[TravelingPanther]

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Who's switching teams?

I don't have to be blind or delusional to be fan. I'm just being realistic. I realize we have plenty of other chances, but this tournament was our best chance to play some good teams and get good wins. But we had to win this game to get those chances.

Hopefully we can win the next couple of games and at least get out of here with some confidence.

I didn't say anyone WAS switching teams. I said that people whining sound like those kids. I didn't call anyone out.

I understand everything involved in this game, and I'm bummed we lost, but it's the 2nd game of the season.

If Jan/Feb rolls around and DePaul sucks again and we're having issues, feel free to whine, but DePaul could have a much better year, the Big East still plays into our RPI, and it's a learning experience. Yes, our SoS won't be as good as it could've been, but a possible blowout loss to an athletic Tennesee team could've been very hard to shake.

There's a lot of time left in the season, and a lot of different ways to look at things.

The season isn't that bad, people just had very lofty expectations. That was evident by the fact that people were debating what it would take to get ranked after this weekend.

[unipanthers8907]

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[QUOTE=TravelingPanther;195217]

Did it occur to anyone the DePaul might not be as bad as last year?

[QUOTE]

Thank you, I was hoping someone else would point that out. I'm not saying DePaul is gonna make the NCAA tournament or even finish in the top half of the Big East. Right now the loss looks bad, but you never know they could win a few conference games this year. Still a bad loss and still disapointing, but DePaul could move up in the Big East this year.

or beating Sienna, Iowa, Iowa State, Wyoming..

I agree with this, winning some other games against teams like Sienna, Iowa, ISU and Wyoming will help some with balancing out this loss.

Should we have won this game, yes. Did we, no. Does it suck, yes. Will the sun rise tomorrow, yes. Can we still make the NCAA Tournament without winning it all in St. Louis, yes its just going to be more difficult than before the day started.

[TravelingPanther]

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Look at the box score. Only two players shot any free throws (OK, three if you count J. Koch's 0-1). Jordan shot NONE. I'm not trying to pile on Jordan, but he must have played a real poor game if he went 1-9 from the field and was NEVER FOULED. The only conclusion I can draw is that DePaul had more than enough athletic talent to snuff our guys without fouling. Which leads me to this...

I tried to tell people here last spring that this game would be closer than you thought, with the real possibility of a loss. DePaul is a Big East team that recruits very athletic players from an area LOADED with talent, and has an NBA caliber kid playing Center. A team like that can be very dangerous to a team like UNI that's athletically challenged (by comparison) and has to rely on perfect team execution to win.

I'm off my soapbox. Did anyone drive and try to create today? I thought I saw something about us shooting nothing but jumpers.

There was driving. They tried to create. Even got a couple of good buckets. One by Sonnen comes to mind.

[run&blade]

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Seems like every year we hear Rima say Jordan is really going to impress this year.

With his weight and height he should be flat out dominating teams, dunking through them.

The way I see it, the Valley is a one big league. It all comes down to a weekend in St. Louis.

The most frustrating part about UNI basketball has always been they have always had trouble scoring and yet the first thing the coach says in postgame is that we need to step up on defense. Like fingernails on a chalkboard.

[TravelingPanther]

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The most frustrating part about UNI basketball has always been they have always had trouble scoring and yet the first thing the coach says in postgame is that we need to step up on defense. Like fingernails on a chalkboard.

I think he's right though. Cold shooting happens to all teams. Great defense gets you through those spells.

I thought Moran and Egleseder would get something eventually, but nothing was falling. Ali went cold.

Would've been interesting to see James get some more minutes.

[Panther789]

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Sorry for the long post, but a bunch of thoughts.

1. I think its cool that this board is in meltdown mode. Nobody is switching teams, and nobody thinks the season is over. That said, we had high expectations for this team, we were excited for the season to start, and we are pretty ticked off about what is a very bad loss.

2. We just blew an opportunity that comes around only once every few years, if that. Instead of playing Tennessee/Purdue/BC, we are stuck in the losers bracket. 2-1 does very little for us, and another loss would be absolutely crushing. I said before hand that it was impossible to overstate the importance of this game, and I won't back off of that now.

Of course, the season is not over, and we can still make things happen. But the last thing we want with a team with this much returning is to have to win it all in St Louis to make the tournament. This was a HUGE step in that direction.

3. Jordan was AWFUL, but he was not alone. It's so easy to pick on the big guy (and we have a poster who is obsessed with doing so), and believe me, today he was very very bad, but others were as well. Moran went 0-7, Kwadzo made only 1 shot, missed 5 FT's, and took a terrible shot to end the first half. Koch and O'Rear had trouble getting post position down low, and all of our bigs struggled to rebound.

4. We lost momentum late in the first. A missed shot by Jordan, a 3 by DePaul, and then an absolutely horrible possession at the end leading to a very long missed 3.

5. Lets hope we got this egg out of the way. Win the next 2, and still a couple of nice opportunities against ISU and Siena later in the non-conference season.

GO PANTHERS!

[TravelingPanther]

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Sorry for the long post, but a bunch of thoughts.

1. I think its cool that this board is in meltdown mode. Nobody is switching teams, and nobody thinks the season is over. That said, we had high expectations for this team, we were excited for the season to start, and we are pretty ticked off about what is a very bad loss.

2. We just blew an opportunity that comes around only once every few years, if that. Instead of playing Tennessee/Purdue/BC, we are stuck in the losers bracket. 2-1 does very little for us, and another loss would be absolutely crushing. I said before hand that it was impossible to overstate the importance of this game, and I won't back off of that now.

Of course, the season is not over, and we can still make things happen. But the last thing we want with a team with this much returning is to have to win it all in St Louis to make the tournament. This was a HUGE step in that direction.

3. Jordan was AWFUL, but he was not alone. It's so easy to pick on the big guy (and we have a poster who is obsessed with doing so), and believe me, today he was very very bad, but others were as well. Moran went 0-7, Kwadzo made only 1 shot, missed 5 FT's, and took a terrible shot to end the first half. Koch and O'Rear had trouble getting post position down low, and all of our bigs struggled to rebound.

4. We lost momentum late in the first. A missed shot by Jordan, a 3 by DePaul, and then an absolutely horrible possession at the end leading to a very long missed 3.

5. Lets hope we got this egg out of the way. Win the next 2, and still a couple of nice opportunities against ISU and Siena later in the non-conference season.

GO PANTHERS!

This is a great post. It's ok to be mad that we lost. I'd question anyone who isn't disappointed by today's performance. Some just sound a little whiny and have gone off the deep end.

The post to start the thread was very accurate as well. Maybe we should've played in a round robin tournament where we definitely got a shot at the top team?

[SteinPizza]

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Seems like every year we hear Rima say Jordan is really going to impress this year.

No offense to your or Gary, but listening to Rima for objective Panther analysis is like reading the Tribune (pre Ricketts) for objective Cubs analysis.

That said, it looks like Jordan played a poor game per the box score. That happens. Expecting him to dominate every game is idiotic. Don't get too down on him or the team. Read Jake's comments post Denver...he more or less said this team is somewhat of a work in progress despite the experience. If Koshwal for DePaul is indeed an NBA caliber player, then he's got some athletic and defensive skills that can easily match anyone the MVC throws at him.