Everyone's Fear: What if Coach Jake Up and Left?

[joecooll6]

Re: Everyone's Fear: What if Coach Jake Up and Left?

This makes almost no sense . . . what am I missing?

You have 10 fingers and 10 toes. Unless you don't count thumbs in which case its 8 and 10.

[jman2004]

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You have 10 fingers and 10 toes. Unless you don't count thumbs in which case its 8 and 10.

I wouldn't count fingers. So does that mean "Grainer" is claiming there were 18 fans on here, calling for Jacobson's head? He's the poster that just said the "majority" wanted him gone . . . Seriously . . . I don't get it.

And I don't even think there were 18 fans calling for his head.

[joecooll6]

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I wouldn't count fingers. So does that mean "Grainer" is claiming there were 18 fans on here, calling for Jacobson's head? He's the poster that just said the "majority" wanted him gone . . . Seriously . . . I don't get it.

And I don't even think there were 18 fans calling for his head.

I think he is saying more than that because he is willing to help the man continue to count once he runs out of fingers and toes (thumbs or no thumbs).

And to say 10 out of 3000 is a stretch, even if it was only 10, its not like anywhere near 3000 people are regular posters.

[jman2004]

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I think he is saying more than that because he is willing to help the man continue to count once he runs out of fingers and toes (thumbs or no thumbs).

It's kind of an odd statement if ya ask me . . . Awfully confusing.

[joecooll6]

Re: Everyone's Fear: What if Coach Jake Up and Left?

It's kind of an odd statement if ya ask me . . . Awfully confusing.

Thats not uncommon from UNIGrainer. He says a lot of odd things.

[96' Alum]

Re: Everyone's Fear: What if Coach Jake Up and Left?

It's tough to say. I could see Jake looking at the next big job, all coaches tend to do that.

I think that the way Mac is being roasted up and down by Cyclone fans may be something that makes him weary of moving up.

It was almost like Mac couldn't seem to wait to move up. He may love UNI, but he was all about getting the hell out of here.

I think Jake may be better prepared for the big job, he is a lot more flexible in what he runs than Mac has been at Iowa State. He certainly coached Mac under the table AGAIN tonight. Mac did nothing to stop Jake from controlling the tempo. The discrepancy in coaching was VERY apparent, Jake really dominated that match-up. Iowa State had better athletes at at least 3, maybe 4, of the 5 positions, and Mac let UNI establish JE, and AK. Not a great performance from the man from Cascade, I kept having flashbacks to watching him get killed by Dana Altman.

All of the Iowa State fans that I watched the game with are ready to come up there, and help Mac move back to the family farm. I just sat there with a big smile on my face.

[Panthers to the Bone]

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FWIW, Mac had offers after the 1st year of NCAA play to leave. That interest increased after year 2...and hit fever pitch after year 3. As I pointed out in a previous post, coaches don't always take the 'next step' jobs just for their sake (or family's sake). It's also for those assistants and their families. Mac's 1 staff became 2, with 2 GA positions added to guys who were graduating seniors. 8 people's quality of life affected, and in most financially enhanced. Like I said before, Chris Foster (per Iowa State Salary Database) got $25,000 his last year at UNI. There was a custodian at UNI that was making $10K more than that. If we want coaches to stay at UNI, we are going to need to pay their assistants more money to keep their quality of life high in Cedar Falls. If the head coach leaves for a bigger job, so be it. But having quality assistants like UNI has in Green, Hogan, Johnson, and Netten...they need to be paid a quality amount to work for the university we love. Otherwise, it makes those decisions easier for those head coaches who have $2 million plus guaranteed money contracts dangled in front of them, close to where their family is from, and at a school that has had some NCAA Tourney success.

[jman2004]

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I highly doubt that Mac took the ISU job in order to give Crawford a better quality of life . . .

[run&blade]

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Big time BCS college basketball is about recruiting serious athletes, if you don't have the athletes it doesn't matter how good of a coach you are. Lick at Iowa is a perfect example, he is a great coach but he can't recruit worth a damn.

Keno ran a big time up tempo game and that is what made him attractive for a school to take a chance on him. Providence probably figured if he can run and gun like that at Drake he should do ok in the Big East, figuring the conference recruits itself to some degree.

Guys like Jake, Mac, and Lick are in a tough spot IMO. THey can all coach but they coach a style that is more of a grinding style because they are not going to get the athletic studs to do otherwise. IMO very risky to hire one of these types of coaches if you are an AD of a BCS school. It would be safer to pick off a top assistant from a powerhouse.

Mac has some athletes this year, and I think he is opening it up. Last night it was almost like Jake grinded and Mac sleep walked into playing that type of game. IMO Mac needed to try and run the Panthers off the court and push the tempo.

ISU could be good but IMO they need to play to their strengths and push the tempo.

[TH1974]

Re: Everyone's Fear: What if Coach Jake Up and Left?

FWIW, Mac had offers after the 1st year of NCAA play to leave. That interest increased after year 2...and hit fever pitch after year 3.

Fever pitch? Which other schools were offering McDermott jobs?

[UNIpanther99]

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Fever pitch? Which other schools were offering McDermott jobs?

Kansas State for sure, I can't remember if there were others.

[SpanishMoon]

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I have been wondering about something: Maybe there is a good reason Mac and even Lickliter were successful at UNI and Butler. They both had good assistants who are now good head coaches. Maybe those assistants were reason for head coach successs. Maybe those guys were the brains. What do you think?

[96' Alum]

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Big time BCS college basketball is about recruiting serious athletes, if you don't have the athletes it doesn't matter how good of a coach you are. Lick at Iowa is a perfect example, he is a great coach but he can't recruit worth a damn.

Keno ran a big time up tempo game and that is what made him attractive for a school to take a chance on him. Providence probably figured if he can run and gun like that at Drake he should do ok in the Big East, figuring the conference recruits itself to some degree.

Guys like Jake, Mac, and Lick are in a tough spot IMO. THey can all coach but they coach a style that is more of a grinding style because they are not going to get the athletic studs to do otherwise. IMO very risky to hire one of these types of coaches if you are an AD of a BCS school. It would be safer to pick off a top assistant from a powerhouse.

Mac has some athletes this year, and I think he is opening it up. Last night it was almost like Jake grinded and Mac sleep walked into playing that type of game. IMO Mac needed to try and run the Panthers off the court and push the tempo.

ISU could be good but IMO they need to play to their strengths and push the tempo.

This is an interesting point.

Before the season, all of the Iowa State people that I know were telling me about how athletic they were going to be. This was the year that they pushed the tempo. Mac was going to have them run up and down the court.

The thing that struck me, after watching all of the Mac games at UNI, and the three years he's been in Ames, was that up tempo basketball doesn't fit his personality. He has always been more comfortable in those 49-45 wrestling matches where he can micro manage every second of every possession. That's who he is.

I told a couple people that I didn't believe it, because that would mean that he is going against everything that he has ever done to get to this point. I mean he has been successful at his other stops playing this grind it out style.

Jake game planned that game last night very well. But. Mac did nothing to try to play to his team's strengths. A physical game played in a half court style allows JE to be a factor. Mac just let Jake control the tempo that the game was played at.

In doing that he let us stick around long enough to figure out how to win the game.

[FOTY]

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That is exactly what I was thinking during this Jake outcoached Mac discussion.

When Mac left, he stated over and over that Jake is the best he had ever seen at viewing gametapes and developing game plans from them. Huh, that may have just bit him in the behind....

[SpanishMoon]

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i think jake is a better recruiter than either Lick or Mac. he also seems to be more willing to show flexibility in both his in-game strategy and season-long framework.

REally? List the top 150 players he has signed.