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  • MVC Predicted Standings according to Pomeroy rankings

    I was looking tonight at the Pomeroy rankings and based on where they are at, and it probably won't move before Tuesday Night, this is based on his rankings how the MVC will look:

    1. UNI 14-4
    2. Missouri State and Wichita State 13-5
    4. Illinois State 10-8
    5. Creighton 9-9
    6. SIU 8-10
    7. Bradley and Indiana State 7-11
    9. Evansville 6-12
    10. Drake 4-14



    If I've added correctly, he has one too many wins and one too few losses somewhere, but if lets say Bradley finished 6-12 instead of 7-11 then his number of wins and losses add up.

    His numbers don't move a lot like Real Time RPI's does, and there hasn't been a lot of movement in his predicted MVC win totals recently. For awhile he had UNI going 13-5 and MSU and Wichita State going 14-4.

    He has calculated that UNI will only lose at Missouri State and Wichita State, but apparently does some sort of adjustment to arrive at his final figure. He also calculated that MSU and WSU would also only lose two so he adjusted them more than he did UNI.

    I would expect Creighton to win more than 9 games, his actual calculations before the adjustment has them winning only 8, but then I expected them to win more non-conference games then they did too. I would another two wins to Creighton. I also think he is low as far as the number of wins for Illinois State by one. At the same time I think he is too high on Missouri State and Wichita State, and would maybe subtract one for WSU and two for Missouri State.

    Anyway, it was an interesting read.

    As far as UNI opponents, he now has Iowa State as the 7th best team in the Big 12. He has Boston College as next to last in the ACC, and DePaul last in the Big East. Denver is ranked 1st in the Sun Belt. Funny, he doesn't have Iowa very far behind Indiana (NR 164 vs. 179). Maybe the Hawks won't finish last.
    "Lot of people talked about Ohio State or Georgetown or Michigan State or whoever, [or] Maryland in our bracket. When the brackets came out, the first team I looked at was Northern Iowa," Kansas Coach Bill Self.

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    Re: MVC Predicted Standings according to Pomeroy rankings

    Thanks for the info DWadle. I think 14-4 with a win in BracketBuster is about what we are going to need to make it in the NCAA's as an at large. Definitely a tall task, but I think we can handle it.

    Hopefully, ISU, BC, and/or Siena play well enough that we can afford another loss or so.

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    • #3
      Re: MVC Predicted Standings according to Pomeroy rankings

      The BracketBuster is a MUST WIN. The road teams that we can be matched with are terrible.

      14-4 + BB + One win in StL= 10-11 seed

      15-3 + BB + Two wins in StL= 6-7 seed

      16-2 + BB + Cutting Nets in StL= 4 seed

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      • #4
        Re: MVC Predicted Standings according to Pomeroy rankings

        I know it is posted somewhere else, but could someone help me out and link to it, or provide who will be the away teams this year during BB?

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        • #5
          Re: MVC Predicted Standings according to Pomeroy rankings

          Originally posted by EVSPanther View Post
          I know it is posted somewhere else, but could someone help me out and link to it, or provide who will be the away teams this year during BB?


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          • #6
            Re: MVC Predicted Standings according to Pomeroy rankings

            They might as well just give us someone close for Bracketbusters this year so we don't have to charter a plane for the return next year. Not really any exciting teams to pick from at this point.
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            • #7
              Re: MVC Predicted Standings according to Pomeroy rankings

              thanks for the info...wow...really not the most heralded squads ever, but some could shake out to be tough. First things first...lets put a beatdown on the Valley this year and take whomever comes.

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              • #8
                Re: MVC Predicted Standings according to Pomeroy rankings

                Originally posted by Silent Earl
                My prediction:
                13-5 in MVC play, tied for 1st
                2 wins in STL
                Win BB

                25-7 overall
                12th seed at large bid
                Win v 5 seed first round
                Win v 4 seed second round
                Lose v 1 seed eventual NC third round

                You heard it here first.
                I'll take it.
                UNI FIGHT

                Originally posted by 9YRPLAN
                iowa sucks, fran sucks, their schedule sucks, iowa fans suck

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                • #9
                  Re: MVC Predicted Standings according to Pomeroy rankings

                  Originally posted by UNIpanther99 View Post
                  They might as well just give us someone close for Bracketbusters this year so we don't have to charter a plane for the return next year. Not really any exciting teams to pick from at this point.
                  Old Dominion and William and Mary could be decent match-ups.

                  William and Mary is 7th in RPI although that will drop once they play many CAA games, but their only two losses were at UConn and and at Harvard. They have beat Richmond, won at Wake Forest and a win against a pretty good VCU team in CAA play.

                  Old Dominion is currently 37th in RPI and won at Georgetown. Their four losses were neutral court games against Missouri and Mississippi State, at Richmond, and at Dayton.

                  Another game that might be okay would be Western Carolina currently 17th. Their two losses were at Texas and at Clemson. They've won at, besides Bradley, Louisville. Those Southern Conference games will hurt their RPI, but if they avoid more than one loss, they should still have a decent RPI at Bracketbuster time.
                  Last edited by DWadle1983; 12-28-2009, 04:16 PM. Reason: Misspelled Louisville
                  "Lot of people talked about Ohio State or Georgetown or Michigan State or whoever, [or] Maryland in our bracket. When the brackets came out, the first team I looked at was Northern Iowa," Kansas Coach Bill Self.

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                  • #10
                    Re: MVC Predicted Standings according to Pomeroy rankings

                    You think 25-7 gets UNI a #12 seed? That means that there's 44 teams at least ranked ahead of UNI...a 25-win UNI team? I think if UNI has 25 wins they are an 8 or 9 seed.

                    Although I'd prefer an 11/12 or 5/6. If at all possible you'd like to avoid the 7-10 seeds.
                    "10% of life is what happens to you, 90% is how you react to what happens."

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                    • #11
                      Re: MVC Predicted Standings according to Pomeroy rankings

                      I'd take ODU or Bill and Mary. A win over a CAA school would go nicely with the ACC, Big 10, Big XII, MWC, and C-USA wins. And as long as Siena and Denver can do well in their conferences, we still should have a nice OOC resume. Still have to take care of business with the Valley. First target- Bluejays.

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                      • #12
                        Re: MVC Predicted Standings according to Pomeroy rankings

                        Apparently Pomeroy found his one game error. He adjusted UNI to 13-5.

                        UNI would have a problem being an at-large team with 7 losses overall unless a couple of the non-conference teams end up with NCAA bids. Even 6 might be borderline.

                        The MVC didn't have that good of a non-conference season in spite of what the league press releases seem to imply. It wasn't a bad non-conference season, but there are too many head-scratcher losses, and both Creighton and Illinois State each have a couple more losses than anybody would have expected.
                        "Lot of people talked about Ohio State or Georgetown or Michigan State or whoever, [or] Maryland in our bracket. When the brackets came out, the first team I looked at was Northern Iowa," Kansas Coach Bill Self.

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                        • #13
                          Re: MVC Predicted Standings according to Pomeroy rankings

                          25 wins and I think we get to wear the white jerseys in the first round...

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                          • #14
                            Re: MVC Predicted Standings according to Pomeroy rankings

                            Originally posted by brett crawford View Post
                            25 wins and i think we get to wear the white jerseys in the first round...
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                            • #15
                              Re: MVC Predicted Standings according to Pomeroy rankings

                              I hate talking about seeds when we havent even played a conference game. Bad karma. We did it for football and then they lost.
                              Sincerely,
                              The Future AD of the University of Northern Iowa

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