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  • #16
    Re: Lickliter Out at Iowa???

    Originally posted by jnutt View Post
    why the hell would Jake take that job? Its a friggin mess in Iowa City and smooth sailing in Cedar Falls.
    I don't think that would ever happen, but everyone knows the reason he would take that position.

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    • #17
      Re: Lickliter Out at Iowa???

      Originally posted by Newsbreaker View Post
      Third, whatever Iowa is or isn't, they are wildly successful financially. I have seen numbers showing that Iowa is in the top-15 of revenue generating athletic departments in the entire country. There aren't many schools who can out-spend Iowa, certainly not DePaul.
      Agree with you there. Iowa fans are fiercely loyal to the hawks and back the teams (football at least...) and spend their money supporting the teams. When I think of athletic departments that would make more I immediately think Texas and Ohio State. But when you look a little deeper you realize it's the schools with a top-flight football program that bring in the dough. Now, I don't have any official numbers on this but I'd bet Texas, tOSU, USC, Florida, Alabama, LSU, Tennessee, Penn State, Michigan, Oklahoma and Oregon (not necessarily an outstanding football team but we all know who pays the bills there) are some of the departments above Iowa. Maybe you could throw Kentucky in there because those people are crazy about basketball but really, I don't know if Duke or UNC would be included. Football is a HUGE money maker and if it's supported well and the team performs to standards asked of it, it will only grow and make more money and then the department has more to spend on other sports as well. Thus, Iowa has plenty to buy a basketball coach that could come in and turn things around.
      Originally posted by rockybison
      You guys suck so bad. Please never let me come back. Ya had 20 yrs by yourself and ya fckd it up. SU rolls in and does it in 4, prolly next year too. Living in a shadow is killn ya.

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      • #18
        Re: Lickliter Out at Iowa???

        Originally posted by Newsbreaker View Post
        Two things.
        Having a little trouble with your counting today?

        Other than that you make good points. Also I don't think it's a poor reflection on Iowa that our very wealthy people made their money by actually producing something of value as opposed to just playing with numbers on a computer screen.
        GO PANTHERS!

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        • #19
          Re: Lickliter Out at Iowa???

          A little off topic but interesting...
          http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/...15/daily6.html
          "We're not an ordinary school," said Fort. "We have tradition. We have a good team year after year. We rebuild, and it doesn't matter who we have coming back."

          dti

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          • #20
            Re: Lickliter Out at Iowa???

            Originally posted by Chitown Panther View Post
            A little off topic but interesting...
            http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/...15/daily6.html
            Here is an expanded list, but it just includes the FBS schools. I can't find it, but I'd be curious to see where some FCS and non football schools rank.

            http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college/2009/07/how-much-revenue-did-your-favorite-fbs-school-take-in-in-200708-this-chart-will-tell-you.html

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            • #21
              Re: Lickliter Out at Iowa???

              http://www.ope.ed.gov/athletics/Index.aspx
              UNI isn't exactly splitting atoms in terms of academics. -run&blade

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              • #22
                Re: Lickliter Out at Iowa???

                I think either job would pay pretty close to the same. So the coach has to ask himself, do you live in College Town or Major City? Are you the second fiddle to fb coach or the big dog? Do you have kids? I would much rather have my kids live in IC than Fullerton and Lincoln Ave. Which conf do you want to be in?

                I think it has very little to do with a Bond Trader or a Gas Station owner ponying up some bucks...
                "We're not an ordinary school," said Fort. "We have tradition. We have a good team year after year. We rebuild, and it doesn't matter who we have coming back."

                dti

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                • #23
                  Re: Lickliter Out at Iowa???

                  Originally posted by GonzoCat View Post
                  Having a little trouble with your counting today?

                  Other than that you make good points. Also I don't think it's a poor reflection on Iowa that our very wealthy people made their money by actually producing something of value as opposed to just playing with numbers on a computer screen.
                  Gee, didn't mean to stir up everyone's pro Iowa fervor. I know Iowa fans are fiercely loyal, several members of my family and their friends are among the most. I've been rooting for Iowa and attending games since I was knee high.

                  What I'm saying is, DePaul could potentially outbid Iowa for a men's basketball coach - nothing more. Potentially is the key word. It's what should be DePaul's premier sport, not something that competes with big time BCS football. Ask this board's favorite guy, Digger Phelps, who said DePaul is college basketball's biggest sleeping giant - or words to that effect. Say what you want about Digger, but he's been around the game, and I highly doubt he'd say the same thing about the Iowa team. From what I've heard, some in the DePaul community are debating right now whether they want to go all in or not.

                  As far as who counts for more in society - I'll always put entraprenuers at the top of the food chain. Be it in the financial sector, making paper clips, car dealers, you name it. Gonzo, if you took my comment to somehow denegrate people who were successful in more standard businesses, then you took it the wrong way. Don't diss traders either - without them the financial markets and that whole industry would be a shadow of what it is today. Also, do you realize how many jobs are created by what they do, the side businesses they invest in, and how they then spend their money? In New York and Chicago - lots, since much of the economy in both cities is built around the financial markets and trading firms HQ'd there.

                  Sorry for the OT in the paragraph above. I'm even more in the mood now for a few green beers with the green dyed river in the background. Enjoy yourselves today if St. Patty's celebration is in your plans. It was big in DSM when I lived there, I'm sure it still is.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Lickliter Out at Iowa???

                    Thanks TH. For those interested, I pulled the Missouri Valley members:

                    1. SIU - 19.0 million
                    2. Wichita State - 17.4
                    3. ISU-R - 14.9
                    4. UNI - 14.8
                    5. MSU - 13.8
                    6. CU - 13.1
                    7. Drake - 12.8
                    8. Bradley - 11.1
                    9. ISU-B - 10.2
                    10. Evansville - 9.6

                    I was surprised to see Drake that high and Bradley that low. Also ISU-B was surprising considering they have a football team.

                    MFVC only members:
                    NDSU - 13.0
                    YSU - 10.9
                    SDSU - 10.7
                    WIU - 9.4

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                    • #25
                      Re: Lickliter Out at Iowa???

                      JD, I'm too lazy, what year is the data?
                      "We're not an ordinary school," said Fort. "We have tradition. We have a good team year after year. We rebuild, and it doesn't matter who we have coming back."

                      dti

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                      • #26
                        Re: Lickliter Out at Iowa???

                        Originally posted by GonzoCat View Post
                        Having a little trouble with your counting today?

                        Other than that you make good points. Also I don't think it's a poor reflection on Iowa that our very wealthy people made their money by actually producing something of value as opposed to just playing with numbers on a computer screen.
                        Ooops. I started with two and then added a third.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Lickliter Out at Iowa???

                          Originally posted by JD720 View Post
                          Thanks TH. For those interested, I pulled the Missouri Valley members:

                          1. SIU - 19.0 million
                          2. Wichita State - 17.4
                          3. ISU-R - 14.9
                          4. UNI - 14.8
                          5. MSU - 13.8
                          6. CU - 13.1
                          7. Drake - 12.8
                          8. Bradley - 11.1
                          9. ISU-B - 10.2
                          10. Evansville - 9.6

                          I was surprised to see Drake that high and Bradley that low. Also ISU-B was surprising considering they have a football team.

                          MFVC only members:
                          NDSU - 13.0
                          YSU - 10.9
                          SDSU - 10.7
                          WIU - 9.4
                          ISU-B has a football team?

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                          • #28
                            Re: Lickliter Out at Iowa???

                            Originally posted by chitown panther View Post
                            jd, i'm too lazy, what year is the data?
                            2008-2009.
                            UNI isn't exactly splitting atoms in terms of academics. -run&blade

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                            • #29
                              Re: Lickliter Out at Iowa???

                              DePaul: $15.8
                              UNI isn't exactly splitting atoms in terms of academics. -run&blade

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                              • #30
                                Re: Lickliter Out at Iowa???

                                2:30 Press conference.
                                UNI isn't exactly splitting atoms in terms of academics. -run&blade

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