from Pat Forde this morning:

[Grayback]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

Like I said. You'd have a chance against the PAC10. You need to work on reading comprehension. See you lost to the MVC. Hope that helps.

SOS #300 Wyoming? Congratulations. Who CAN'T beat them? UNLV curbstomped SIU.

[Grayback]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

circa 2002, just in case you missed it

Oh, really Cal? WTF have YOU done? It's cool, keep throwing rocks at the throne.

[UNI]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

MID MAJORS = 1-5 all-time NCAAT

MAJORS = 33-16 all-time NCAAT, 4 FINAL FOURS, 1 NC

Kiss my HIGH MAJOR arse, neophyte.

Almost every conference has had success like that. We have Wichita State, Indiana State. We had Tulsa and Cincinatti. History is history. There is a reason half the country hates Notre Dame. Their fans live in the past. It seems as though you are doing the same. Over the last 10 years the MWC is just as much, if not more, a mid-major conference as the MVC. It is as simple as that.

UNLV falls in the same category as many different teams. DePaul, Houston, Loyola, St. Johns. All once good...some even great. However, not much to say about them now. Now, none of them are considered "majors". They are not big resume builders. Outside of this year, UNLV wouldn't have been considered a good win on anyone's bracket. It would have been your average victory, just as one against UNI would have.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/358679-top-ten-whatever-happened-to-programs-in-college-basketball#page/11

You can check that out if you don't believe me.

[06panther10]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

Well, I can't say. What I can tell you is, the MWC had a sellout crowd of 18,500 to watch semifinal action consisting of 2 ranked teams (one top 10, the other top-15). I know, I know. It's a little hard to fathom considering you're used to playing in glorified high school gyms with a 4500 seat capacity.

Your conference isn't even at a level where you can play your conference tournament at a neutral court/city. Weak, and very small time-ish.

[Grayback]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

Almost every conference has had success like that. We have Wichita State, Indiana State. We had Tulsa and Cincinatti. History is history. There is a reason half the country hates Notre Dame. Their fans live in the past. It seems as though you are doing the same. Over the last 10 years the MWC is just as much, if not more, a mid-major conference as the MVC. It is as simple as that.

UNLV falls in the same category as many different teams. DePaul, Houston, Loyola, St. Johns. All once good...some even great. However, not much to say about them now. Now, none of them are considered "majors". They are not big resume builders. Outside of this year, UNLV wouldn't have been considered a good win on anyone's bracket. It would have been your average victory, just as one against UNI would have.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/358679-top-ten-whatever-happened-to-programs-in-college-basketball#page/11

You can check that out if you don't believe me.

Ok farm boy, lets take it from 2007: UNLV 3-2 NCAAT. UNI 0-3. Thanks for playing.

[UNI]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

Don't throw National Championships from 20, 30, 40 years ago around. You don't see the University of San Francisco doing so.

[UNIAlum95]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

Oh, really Cal? WTF have YOU done? It's cool, keep throwing rocks at the throne.

All hail the mighty MWC. The conference that all others measure themselves against.

Let us know when your conference intends to win the head to head with the Valley.

[Grayback]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

Your conference isn't even at a level where you can play your conference tournament at a neutral court/city. Weak, and very small time-ish.

Yup. Vegas is small time and weak. It's only one of the hottest destinations in the world. But, ya so weak. Go chew grass.

[UNI]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

Ok farm boy, lets take it from 2007: UNLV 3-2 NCAAT. UNI 0-3. Thanks for playing.

This has NOTHING to do with tournament success between our two teams. UNLV HAS MUCH MORE THAN UNI! MUCH MORE!! This has to do with major, mid-major status. Regardless of UNLV's tournament history, YOU ARE STILL A MID-MAJOR! In football, basketball, baseball, everything. You are a mid-major just like us. Don't try to act any different.

[UNIAlum95]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

Almost every conference has had success like that. We have Wichita State, Indiana State. We had Tulsa and Cincinatti. History is history. There is a reason half the country hates Notre Dame. Their fans live in the past. It seems as though you are doing the same. Over the last 10 years the MWC is just as much, if not more, a mid-major conference as the MVC. It is as simple as that.

UNLV falls in the same category as many different teams. DePaul, Houston, Loyola, St. Johns. All once good...some even great. However, not much to say about them now. Now, none of them are considered "majors". They are not big resume builders. Outside of this year, UNLV wouldn't have been considered a good win on anyone's bracket. It would have been your average victory, just as one against UNI would have.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/358679-top-ten-whatever-happened-to-programs-in-college-basketball#page/11

You can check that out if you don't believe me.

UNLV wasn't even going to the dance without a run in their conference tournament. It's sad to see them prop themselves up like they were a top 25 team.

[1988]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

Yup. Vegas is small time and weak. It's only one of the hottest destinations in the world. But, ya so weak. Go chew grass.

Come on Brokeback, you even have to admit that your conference is small time.

[Rebelbacker]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

UNLV wasn't even going to the dance without a run in their conference tournament. It's sad to see them prop themselves up like they were a top 25 team.

Actually UNLV was in both polls during the year.

Your facts are wrong about UNLV making the tournament. We were safely in the entire time. If we weren't then why was there no talk of UNLV being on the bubble in any publication or tournament discussion on tv?

I'm not really interested in any smack talk as I think this will not be an easy game. I have a few questions about your team. Is anyone interested in just talking about the game and not trying to flame each other?

[Big_Al]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

Anyone who pays attention to the football board knows I spent 8 years in Utah, the Utes are my BCS boys, so I know a thing or three about the MWC.

UNLV is a long, long road away from their glory years under Tarkanian (loved him in Honeymoon in Vegas). They are certainly one of the better teams in the MWC, but they are far from being all that and a bag of chips. Bag of chips, maybe.

Oddly, UNI getting the 9 seed is something of an affirmation from the selection committee. This is the one spot on the bracket where, statistically, the lower-seeded team is more likely to win (55%).

Overall, I like UNI's chances to go deep. They have shown the ability to perplex opposing teams the first time around and in a single-elimination, one-and-done tourny I think they have an inherent advantage. Any advantage other teams might have will be purely athletic, not schematic.

[Rebelbacker]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

Come on Brokeback, you even have to admit that your conference is small time.

I'm not saying that the MWC is on the level of say a Big 12 or SEC but we have multiple BCS game appearances(and wins) and 4 bids in the tournament this year. You have to remember that the league is less than 15 years old.

I think it is safe to say that the success we have had in football and this year in basketball puts us safely in the top tier of non-BCS conferences. Its tough to find another non-BCS conference that has had success in both like we have.

We can argue about this all day long but to most people in the BCS BOTH the MWC and MVC don't matter. Of course until a MWC school crashes the BCS party and wins one of their bowl games.

[06panther10]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

Yup. Vegas is small time and weak. It's only one of the hottest destinations in the world. But, ya so weak. Go chew grass.

Yeah, its also a home court of a conference member. They do that so that they can actually get people to the games. Small time.

Conferences that have actual fans, and that follow their teams hold the tournaments at neutral courts. And not many have tournaments as successful as the MVC's arch madness in STL.