from Pat Forde this morning:

[Purple member]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

You're right about the Fiesta Bowl. I forgot about that.

As for your question on Pac-10 expansion. The rumor is that Utah will be leaving with Colorado to form the Pac-12. There is also a rumor that BYU would move to the Big 12 to fill CU's spot. There is so much politics involved that who really knows what is going to happen.

I've heard rumors of going to 4 super conferences and destroying the Big 12 and Big East. It all depends on the tv contracts coming up in a few years.

I guess it's all about the business end of it as much as the competition. too bad. I don't see BYU fitting into the Big 12. How do you let them get away with never playing any games on Sunday; show up or forfeit.

[DWadle1983]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

You're right about the Fiesta Bowl. I forgot about that.

As for your question on Pac-10 expansion. The rumor is that Utah will be leaving with Colorado to form the Pac-12. There is also a rumor that BYU would move to the Big 12 to fill CU's spot. There is so much politics involved that who really knows what is going to happen.

I've heard rumors of going to 4 super conferences and destroying the Big 12 and Big East. It all depends on the tv contracts coming up in a few years.

I get the sense that Utah is being perceived as a better pickup than BYU in what I've read about the possible moves. Doesn't BYU have a bigger fan base than Utah.

[Rebelbacker]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

I guess it's all about the business end of it as much as the competition. too bad. I don't see BYU fitting into the Big 12. How do you let them get away with never playing any games on Sunday; show up or forfeit.

BYU controls the MWC politically, as does Utah to a lesser extent. BYU doesn't play on Sundays so that's the way it is for them. They are God's people after all if you ask them.

If you think UNLV has bad, arrogant fans you haven't seen BYU.

[Purple member]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

BYU doesn't play on Sundays so that's the way it is for them. They are God's people after all if you ask them.

If you think UNLV has bad, arrogant fans you haven't seen BYU.

I guess their magic underwear doesn't work on Sundays. I live in Phoenix (Salt Lake City South). I know all about the arrogance.

[TravelingPanther]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

BYU controls the MWC politically, as does Utah to a lesser extent. BYU doesn't play on Sundays so that's the way it is for them. They are God's people after all if you ask them.

If you think UNLV has bad, arrogant fans you haven't seen BYU.

I've been to BYU and loved it.

[Rebelbacker]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

I get the sense that Utah is being perceived as a better pickup than BYU in what I've read about the possible moves. Doesn't BYU have a bigger fan base than Utah.

BYU has a bigger fan base as they are kind of like a retarded Notre Dame in that they have a national folllowing because of their religion. The problem with BYU and the Pac-10 is that they are a religious school. The Pac-10(especially Stanford and Cal) would never vote to include BYU in an expansion plan because it goes against their liberal ideals. The idea of a religious school in their conference is a no go.

There are rumors that because the LDS was behind the anti-gay marriage bill in California that it turned many liberals against the LDS and BYU. But that's just rumors.

[Big_Al]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

The larger issue is that BYU academics are horrible. The Pac 10 will never invite BYU unless they somehow magically gain membership in the Association of American Universities. And promise the Pac 10 a boatload of cash...

[panther2317]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

UNLV was the Gonzaga of the 1990's. A good team in a low major conference out west. Then they left the Big West for the Mountain West. Good conference and good mid-major teams.

You beat SIU - they went 6-12 in the Valley...congratulations. Also, I"m glad that I have a definition on the term "curbstomp". A nine point win at home. So I guess when the Panthers beat SIU by 12 on the road...that was an "uber curbstomping"?

[Grayback]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

Well, we don't claim to be a major program. Although ESPN must have found us to be more relevant.

We don't claim it, we ARE it.

[Grayback]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

UNLV was the Gonzaga of the 1990's. A good team in a low major conference out west. Then they left the Big West for the Mountain West. Good conference and good mid-major teams.

You beat SIU - they went 6-12 in the Valley...congratulations. Also, I"m glad that I have a definition on the term "curbstomp". A nine point win at home. So I guess when the Panthers beat SIU by 12 on the road...that was an "uber curbstomping"?

You beat Wyoming; the conference doormats. We beat them by about 50 points, collectively.

Do more research on UNLV's conference treks. Wouldn't make you look like such a dunce.

[GonzoCat]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

Also, I"m glad that I have a definition on the term "curbstomp".

Today's little known fact - The original curbstomper, the guy the movie was based on, now lives in Des Moines. Last I knew he had a front office job for the Iowa Chops, so not sure what he is up to now.

[UNIAlum95]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

We don't claim it, we ARE it.

Just because you keep saying it, won't make it come true.

[Big_Al]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

Today's little known fact - The original curbstomper, the guy the movie was based on, now lives in Des Moines. Last I knew he had a front office job for the Iowa Chops, so not sure what he is up to now.

Alright -- time for a proper thread hijack.

What movie?

First (only) time I've seen curbstomping in a movie was American History X.

[TommyT]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

You beat Wyoming; the conference doormats. We beat them by about 50 points, collectively.

Do more research on UNLV's conference treks. Wouldn't make you look like such a dunce.

How did you guys do against Utah this year? According to my sources, they beat you twice. What was their record again? UNI does not have 2 losses against the same opponent this year. I understand the head-to-head argument and I understand when UNLV fans point out that we lost to Evansville at their place without our starting center. But we were undefeated at home. Even if our conference is not as strong as the MWC, we did not lose to a 14-17 team on our home court.

PS - Love Vegas! Can't wait to get out there again!

[unlvrebelx]

Re: from Pat Forde this morning:

Utah is an anomaly....they beat LSU and Illinois too. In league play, they held teams to .287 shooting from 3pt range....which is incredible, and the fact that they play a lot of zone with a 7 foot 3 inch center....it was a terrible matchup for us....BUT, we also lost a few starters both times we played them, the 2nd time we played them, one of our players had the best week in practice (Matt Shaw) and worked his way back into the starting role for that game and then hurt himself during warmups....it was unfortunate.

No excuses...they're a tough matchup for our personnel and they beat us. In both games, they tried to slow us down the whole game and did a decent job at it, but we were able to speed them up and comeback both times and they weathered the storm. In the conference tourney, we sped them up from the get go and handled them.