Fred Hoiberg hired as ISU's new coach!

[ubuntuCAT]

Re: Fred Hoiberg hired as ISU's new coach!

Lame that they fired Grayer. He along with hoiberg are ISU legends. Seems sad to treat someone who helped ISU so much this way. I know he was only hired for like 2 days but still.

I thought he was keeping Grayer and Otzelberger?

[in_the_stands]

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Anyone think Troy Dannen has worked out as Athletic Director?

Correct me if I'm wrong but he had never worked or participated in College athletics prior to becoming the AD at UNI right?

Wasn't Hoiberg working as an assistant for the T-Wolves for one season?

Not to knock Dannen, but so far he's been coasting on what was already built under Hartzell. Unlike Hoiberg who has to start from scratch.

[cydave]

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I thought he was keeping Grayer and Otzelberger?

Yep, they are.

[UNIAlum95]

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Not to knock Dannen, but so far he's been coasting on what was already built under Hartzell. Unlike Hoiberg who has to start from scratch.

Dannen has done wonders on bringing cash into the department. That's his shining star right now.

[96' Alum]

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Dannen has done wonders on bringing cash into the department. That's his shining star right now.

This is what his role is. He has to be able to be creative and raise money....That is the only way that UNI survives the Iowa centric Board of Regents attempt to kill us, and to a lesser extent Iowa State, off.

[GonzoCat]

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Lame that they fired Grayer. He along with hoiberg are ISU legends. Seems sad to treat someone who helped ISU so much this way. I know he was only hired for like 2 days but still.

Sounds like this is going to work out okay for Nurse. They said they were going to honor his contract, but didn't say what that means exactly. He has his old job with the Energy back and I'm guessing ISU is going to pay him the difference between the $130K or whatever his contract was for and what the Energy pay him for two years.

[TH1974]

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This is what his role is. He has to be able to be creative and raise money....That is the only way that UNI survives the Iowa centric Board of Regents attempt to kill us, and to a lesser extent Iowa State, off.

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[Newsbreaker]

Re: Fred Hoiberg hired as ISU's new coach!

Anyone think Troy Dannen has worked out as Athletic Director?

Correct me if I'm wrong but he had never worked or participated in College athletics prior to becoming the AD at UNI right?

Wasn't Hoiberg working as an assistant for the T-Wolves for one season?

This was addressed earlier. TD had experience doing the very tasks UNI asks him to do. Hoiberg does not.

[williebat]

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I thought he was keeping Grayer and Otzelberger?

My bad I read that grayer was let go a few days ago. I am glad they are keeping him. Good decision by the Mayor errrrr coach

[BryceC]

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I just checked. Duke doesn't have a single former NBA player on their coaching staff. They're missing out on this key advantage. Kids will respond to it. Or maybe Duke isn't interested in kids with NBA aspirations.

I've grown bored of this. You have been embarrassed, and it's not fair because you've already had an embarrassing week. Plus you probably went to Iowa State, which makes me picking on you unfair and a little mean. Unless the subject is (1)dirt; (2)pig's feet; or (3)fat girls in flannel who need some love, there isn't a subject I won't slap your around over. I should apologize.




But I won't.

News, you are a smart guy so I don't know why you'd resort to this sort of drivel. Frankly of all the articles posted that I've read online the only person that thinks it's embarrassing is you. They all say it's crazy and a longshot but that it could work out well.

If you don't think the NBA thing is important you haven't read the quotes from ISU's current players about the hire. They are enamored with it.

Tell me what is wrong with these statement: ISU basketball right now sucks and is irrelevant. Fred Hoiberg brings a lot of excitement to Ames and if he wins it could be a real program changer. If he loses ISU basketball sucks and is irrelevant.

What is the downside here? I don't think his chances of success are that much worse than anybody elses and it jacks up the fanbase more than anybody else. We hired McD who I thought was a sure thing with tons of experience and he was the worst coach ISU had in 30 years including Wayne-O who got fired from Long Beach State. ISU is a tough place to coach and nothing is for sure. You're really taking this personally and you are utterly convinced your opinion is the only valid one. If you're smarter and have better insight than Gary Parrish, Dick Vitale, and Jay Bilas then more power to you. I just don't think you are, no offense.

[TH1974]

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If you don't think the NBA thing is important you haven't read the quotes from ISU's current players about the hire. They are enamored with it.

You can't judge the worth of Hoiberg's NBA 'experience' based on the comments from his current players. If Pollard had hired a coach with 10-years' head coaching experience and no NBA contacts in his rolodex, they'd be saying how his decade of coaching experience was a great thing.

[Newsbreaker]

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ISU basketball right now sucks and is irrelevant. Fred Hoiberg brings a lot of excitement to Ames and if he wins it could be a real program changer. If he loses ISU basketball sucks and is irrelevant.

None of that is untrue. The question is, what makes it most likely that your program turns around. A coach with no experience isn't it.

What is the downside here?

You continue to lose. Your fanbase grows increasingly apathetic. The image of one of the best players in school history is tarnished forever. You lose your AD. A few years of irrelevance turns into the better part of a generation of irrelevance. Kids you are recruiting can't even remember ISU being anything but a running joke. Donations drop off when you can't afford it. Leagues realign and ISU is left, thanks in part to not being competitive, on the outside looking in. Should I continue?

You're really taking this personally

Based upon what? The fact that I've been discussing it on a message board. I think you have a poor concept of what it means to take something "personally."

If you're smarter and have better insight than Gary Parrish, Dick Vitale, and Jay Bilas then more power to you. I just don't think you are, no offense.

It has nothing to do with being "smarter." Don't mistake national pundits - who aren't right any more than they're wrong - shrugging their shoulders and saying "Well, they can't get any worse" with some ringing endorsement.

[BryceC]

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None of that is untrue. The question is, what makes it most likely that your program turns around. A coach with no experience isn't it.

I honestly don't think it's a whole lot different than us going out and getting another mid-major guy. I really don't. We'll just have to agree to disagree here. ISU is a tough job. Do you think Iowa will be turned around faster than ISU? Do you think their fans will return faster than ISU's? I think you're underestimating the impact of the hire and the potential of Fred.

Again, we're just debating opinions here. This is like debating an opinion over whether Keynes or Hayek is a better economist. It will ultimately come down to your worldview and opinion. You can't claim "victory" here, I'm sorry, no matter how much you want to. If you want to claim who is the most arrogant ******* award, it's all yours.

This is what Bilas said, and I don't think it's saying "it can't get any worse":

"I think it's a great choice. He understands Iowa State and he has passion for the university. Recruiting is about hard work and building relationships. And what I know of Fred, he's good at both."

[Trapped in California]

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Again, we're just debating opinions here. This is like debating an opinion over whether Keynes or Hayek is a better economist. It will ultimately come down to your worldview and opinion. You can't claim "victory" here, I'm sorry, no matter how much you want to. If you want to claim who is the most arrogant ******* award, it's all yours.

Milton Friedman

[ubuntuCAT]

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Milton Friedman

winner!!!!!!