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Pretty complimentary. I like Crean and like where he is taking the IU program.
Hopefully they soon return to their rightful place among the elite...just hope they don't start this evening.
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Pretty complimentary. I like Crean and like where he is taking the IU program.
Hopefully they soon return to their rightful place among the elite...just hope they don't start this evening.FM -
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IMO, their rightful place is 11th in the Big 10Originally posted by FMPanther View PostComment
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rightful place? Please Were they ever really that good? Compare them to Michigan state and they don't seem so elite.Comment
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Originally posted by williebat View Post
What are you? <25 is my guess.
It has been a long time. A 2002 runner-up is not too shabby.
5 NCs are nice, but not relevant nowadays.
Indiana is a top5/10 historical program. Anyone who thinks otherwise is foolish.FMComment
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Yes.Originally posted by williebat View Post
UCLA, Indiana, Kansas, Duke, North Carolina, Michigan State, Syracuse, Kentucky, UConn, and Georgetown would probably be my list of "elite" programs. Arizona, Florida, Louisville, Purdue, Texas, and perhaps Gonzaga would be on the cusp.
Did I forget anyone?__________________
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Gonzaga has done nothing to be deemed elite other than be the all time Cinderalla team. The Zags have never advanced past the final four to my knowledge and don't have much of a history past a couple of sweet sixteen runs followed by a final four. We could go to the final four 3 times in the next 10 years and not be considered a top 15-20 program historically.Originally posted by UNIpanther99 View Post
I hate Iowa, everyone here knows that, and they are a million times more historically relevant than Gonzaga. I hate to rip on that comment it just seemed so out of place.Illinois State Fan at a St. Louis White Castle 3:45AM Saturday March 6th:
"White Castle?" "more like Black Castle..."
You stay classy Redbirds.Comment
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i dont consider michigan state or uconn elite.
elite jobs, maybe, but not the blue-bloods
UCLA
NC-Chapel Hill
Kentucky
Indiana
Kansas
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Yes. UCLA and Indiana are elite programs despite not having a whole lot of success the last few years. UCLA made the Final Four in 2006, 07 & 08 and won the title in 95.Originally posted by williebat View Post
Also, it's amazing to look at the list of teams that beat no one in the title game due to the runner-up breaking rules and having seasons vacated (ex.: Kansas over Memphis, Derrick Rose's grades being lied about)Originally posted by rockybisonComment
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Michigan state has 8 total final fours 6 since 1999. that is six out of the last 11 final fours. EliteOriginally posted by Casey'sitsallgood View Post
Duke 15 final fours 4 since 1999. Elite
UCLA is elite I will admit I forgot about 2007-2009 run.
Kansas 13 final fours but only 4 since 1993. Still elite
Kentucky 13 final fours but 0 since 1998. They want to be elite but are living off of the past.
UNC 18 final fours 9 since 1991. That is 9 out of last 19. Elite
UCONN 3 final fours not elite
Cuse 4 final fours not elite
Indiana has been to 8 final fours but only 2 since 1992. Indiana Great great history but not elite.
Panthers 1 sweet sixteen Elite in the hearts of thousands!Last edited by williebat; 12-22-2010, 02:32 PM.Comment
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I tend to agree, but others like to limit "elite" to those programs who's success has spanned multiple eras.Originally posted by williebat View Post__________________
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dont get me wrong, MSU is well on their way. them or 'cuse are probably just out of that group in my eyes.Comment
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