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[Ten4Ten]

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There were some horrible calls both ways (and always at a bad time for the team that was hurt by them). I'd like to think that they averaged out, even if they were mind-numbing when they happened. It's a bad sign when I remember a ref well enough to recognize him the next time I see him. The best zebras are the ones no one remembers afterward because they didn't effect the game.

[achrist70]

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Worst Crew I think I have saw in Cedar Falls ever, the black official actually did our ODU last year and wasn't that terrible. One of the GM games the committed 51 fouls or something like that, well they did again tonight but they weren't called.

Personally I don't think that 45 should have been allowed back in the game after he threw up, the ref stopped the game when he hit his head on the floor then threw up, two signs of a concussion, in high school if a player shows two signs of a concussion like that, a Dr. is suppose to approve return the game IDK if there is anything like that in the NCAA but it sure would hurt.

[Ten4Ten]

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From watching the replay, I'm pretty sure DJ's head never hit the floor. He caught himself with his elbows/bad shoulder. He tweaked his neck -- hard -- to the side, though. Looked more like whiplash than a concussion to me. They were treating him on the bench as if he pinched a nerve in his back/shoulder/neck.

[Khan4Cats]

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Just want to point out the fouls were 16 to 19 - not much of a discrepancy.

Also, when you drive to the hoop, you tend to draw more fouls then when you drive to the basket then when you shoot 3's. You had 9 more attempts from behind the arc then we did and 'd wager more jump shots too. Finally, of those 19 fouls we did draw, 4 came in the final minute when you were trying to stop the clock

It's not really the calls that were called that tip the scales. It's the ones that are not called: such as the headlock/armbar on our player attempting to get open for the inbounds pass with 11 seconds to go, or the punch to the head after jockeying for rebound position after a made free throw.

[AC#45]

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I agree with the armbar Ike gave #11. That one was obvious even to a Mason fan. Not sure about the "punch". Each side sees things different and Im sure there were things you guys got away with. But the refs are not in anybodys control, they call it the way they see it and doesnt make a team "dirty" or anything like that.

[PantherHawk]

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The refs were pretty bad. Being an official myself I watched that game and saw
A lot of inconsistent calls. The mafia looking official should never be allowed to officiate
Again, that guys was horrible on his mechanics and he was a dbag, talking **** to fans, really??
On one end it was a foul, then on the other end it wasn't?
I hope they alllow MVC officials to come out there next year, they will really regret
Sending their D squad to officiate.

What UNI didn't do, when #24 got his 3rd foul, UNI should of gone after him. Get his 4th
Foul and get him out of there. Also uni did not attack the rim enough, everytime they coul
Of gotten lay-ups they passed the ball out for 3.

[NEI Panther]

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I was at the game and when 45 went down, I think most of the fans started booing the refs when they stopped the play (I agree it was the right call because the player was in danger where he was at, if he was out of the play, they would/should have let them play). But where the booing got louder was when he jumped up and seemed fine and acted like he wanted to stay in. Then as he walked to the bench you could tell he hurt his arm.

[bigticket]

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what is the rule on stopping play for a player down/injured when you dont have the ball? that was the only puzzling thing to me when the GM player was down.

i'm too tired to google right now...

[PantherHawk]

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Technically by rule the only time the officials can stop play is, if there is an
Injured player and they could get hurt worse. These officials tonight were way off
The player had flopped (by rule should of been T'd up for his flop in the 1st half) in the first
Half. He was an acting artist at times, but you don't allow the team run their offense for 10seconds
And then stop the play. They allowed play to continue and then finally one of them noticed

[panther2317]

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At one point in the second half, #45 was walking back to the bench and screamed, "where did they get these refs?" I yelled back, "they're from your league!" a GMU fan next to me said, "we have had this crew five times this season."

So either that kid doesn't pay attention or he was concussed.

[Ten4Ten]

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When we played Creighton last year in Fairfax (return game from BB 2 years ago), your own MVC refs pretty much screwed Creighton out of a win by calling a T on Dana Altman in the final seconds of a 1-point game.

And the previous year, a double-T earlier in the game on Altman out at Creighton (Called by CAA refs) sparked Creighton's comeback from a double-digit deficit to beat us.

[bigticket]

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Technically by rule the only time the officials can stop play is, if there is an
Injured player and they could get hurt worse. These officials tonight were way off
The player had flopped (by rule should of been T'd up for his flop in the 1st half) in the first
Half. He was an acting artist at times, but you don't allow the team run their offense for 10seconds
And then stop the play. They allowed play to continue and then finally one of them noticed

that's what i thought..... i probably would have boo'd as well when that kid was down..... they shouldn't have stopped play.. then clap when he gets up

tough loss...

from 5th grade on when your team losses a basketball game, you're required to complain about officiating.. un-written rule of basketball

[GoGMU]

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So, I know this is completely off topic (and perhaps in poor taste) but you brought it up, so I'll ask.

What was up with your crowd booing our injured player? You guys have been a cool bunch, so it suprised me a little bit. Did they think he was faking or something?

I have an idea about why some in the crowd booed.

When Andre Cornelius (#45) went down UNI had possession and was quickly regrouping. It appeared that they may be have been about to run a play. Andre laid on the court for a few seconds til the ref blew the whistle to check on him. After a few more seconds he sat up pretty quickly and then stood up, if I recall properly. I really believe that some in the crowd thought he was faking to disrupt UNI's offense. And they didn't see how hard he went down (I didn't realize it, either, until I saw the replay).

Anyway, I don't believe most people anywhere would boo someone who was legitimately injured.

[jegbomb52]

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I have an idea about why some in the crowd booed.

When Andre Cornelius (#45) went down UNI had possession and was quickly regrouping. It appeared that they may be have been about to run a play. Andre laid on the court for a few seconds til the ref blew the whistle to check on him. After a few more seconds he sat up pretty quickly and then stood up, if I recall properly. I really believe that some in the crowd thought he was faking to disrupt UNI's offense. And they didn't see how hard he went down (I didn't realize it, either, until I saw the replay).

Anyway, I don't believe most people anywhere would boo someone who was legitimately injured.

Wow, just wow

[KansasCityPanther]

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There should have been a foul called when Pearson (I believe) when he ran into Moran trying to get the hail mary before it OB. He would have fouled out of the game right there.