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[KansasCityPanther]

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They also missed all the shirt grabbing, especially on AJ when he was making his cuts without the ball. Kinda reminded me of all the stuff SIU used to get away with, when they were good.

[AC#45]

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There should have been a foul called when Pearson (I believe) when he ran into Moran trying to get the hail mary before it OB. He would have fouled out of the game right there.

I dont really agree with that. I think there was acting and grasping for a foul by both guys there. Im guessing it was Moran who just stood there and held his ground and then fell over, and Pearson was grasping to try and get a foul called. I think that would have been a horrid call if they called one against either there. Perhaps it was like in football, no call due to an uncatchable ball lol.

[AC#45]

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Like somebody said above, good officials should go unnoticed during the game and have no effect on the outcome. It frustrates me that I can recognize most of the officials from the CAA no matter where they are and know that at least a handful of calls are going to be botched. Alot of them seem to have a direct impact on the outcome and can take over the game. Case in point, the WSU-VCU game.

[montej]

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That half black official was horrendous. How did they miss the hold on Kwadzo cutting for the ball. Liked how we played, should be fun in St. Lou

[UNI83]

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The missed call on that last inbound play sent me over the freaking edge. Kwadzo was in a ****ing sleeper hold from the WWE cutting off those screens and nothing. Giant crock of freaking s****

[CyCarp]

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Yea, I was waiting for that call also. Kwadzo was getting strangled there.

[DownGoesKansas]

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I am just glad that this game did not really mean anything. I was able to remain somewhat calm despite the unbelievably bad officiating. If this was a "play in" game for us I would need a new tv right now, among other things.

[mwatje]

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My apologies to anyone in section 108 that may have gotten tired of my relentless screaming at the one ref who seemed to be botching every single call. I was very frustrated at his inconsistencies and general terribleness. The other two refs seemed to be "ok" other than the bald guy's missed call along the UNI bench at the end when we were down by 2.

That being said, this was one of the most exciting games since UNI v Kansas. It was a ton of fun to watch. Both teams were great. And I hope that in our rematch we can just be focused on two great teams playing each other, rather than the performance of the refereeing staff.

Good Luck to GMU this season; hope they make it deep. And hopefully the Panthers can use what they learned in this game for some Arch Madness Magic!

[PantherHawk]

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I was screaming my head off, they held him on the inbounds play big time. They also called Sonnen early in the game for grabbing onto #45 jersey. The rest of the game they let it go? I did not understand their reasoning behind that.

I thought UNI should of ran someone in the backcourt at least to get the ball in. They had 11.9 seconds left, they could of threw it back there and brought it up the court.

The 2nd half officiating was horrible, they took both teams out of their game by calling all the fouls. They did not allow either team to get physical at all. They call one thing a foul and then very next time they let it go?

But we settled for the outside shot and didn't even try to attack the basket. We didn't rebound very good, and we left their shooters open at bad times. They are good and deserved that game. Kind of refreshing knowing we played majority of that game with 1 senior. Got a lot of experience coming back for next year (just need a post player)

[TommyT]

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I thought UNI should of ran someone in the backcourt at least to get the ball in. They had 11.9 seconds left, they could of threw it back there and brought it up the court.

Amen. Couldn't come up with an explaination to my girlfriend's sons who were there with me why we didn't run anyone to the back court. We had plenty of time.

But maybe the GMU players were holding our players back at that time

Haven't seen that inconsistent refereeing for a very long time. It was like an NBA game...and I hate the NBA.

[Winder/aka Dan Holmes]

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On the inbounds with 11 seconds, I couldn't believe the ball just ended up "flipped into play". With replay, I noticed how GM's player jumped up landing out of bounds hitting our player's arm, yet no one else saw this??

[jman2004]

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Okay, can't think of many specifics, but horrible calls throughout. The fact that one team was allowed to significantly, and at times violently, hand check throughout the entire game while the other team was called for it regularly, was just absurd. Refs need to be consistent. That's all anyone should ask for. These guys were far from it.

I don't care about all that though. Two things are causing me to post.

1). Our crowd booed #45 NOT because he was injured but because he proved to be a drama queen. He flopped earlier in the game and remained on the ground crying for the officials attention. He didn't get it. Then later after falling, play is stopped for him while we're setting up our offense. I would've been okay with that if he didn't give himself away by popping up immediately after the whistle had been blown. "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" comes to mind . . . all this talk of "concussion" makes me roll my eyes.

2). I can't help but play devil's advocate though on the supposed "headlock" on Kwadzo with 11 seconds left . . . Sure, it looked like a foul, but I've seen Kwadzo duck his head under his defenders arm and scream real loud trying to draw a foul while getting open one too many times in the last few seasons. In fact, last year I even told my wife "one day, he won't get that call because refs will figure out what he's doing." Well Kwadzo, I'm afraid you didn't get that call.

I'm sorry. I'm purple and gold through and through, but I personally think Kwadzo initiated that "headlock". The right call was probably made there.

[jman2004]

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On the inbounds with 11 seconds, I couldn't believe the ball just ended up "flipped into play". With replay, I noticed how GM's player jumped up landing out of bounds hitting our player's arm, yet no one else saw this??

I was with my brother and we both said we were doomed getting the ball in that position. Would've been better off bringing it up full court with 11 seconds left.

Didn't see the bumped arm on replay (and I DVR'd the game and watched most of it twice through). But I do know that we were dangerously close to a 5 second call with no time outs to spare.

In my opinion, that was a moment that Kwadzo needed to just get open, instead of initiating contact and looking for a call. Calls didn't go in our favor all night. Players had to know that. Don't know why anyone would think that would change with 11 seconds left.

[JungleCat]

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Might wanna watch the way the opposing player had Kwadzo on that one fellas... it was a case of Kwadzo trying to come around him and Tate being smart enough to not let him. (It was a blatant hold) GMU had every reason to "give" a foul there to put us at the line. They were up and we were a bit shaky shooting down the stretch. Smart play by them as much as I hate to say it.

[jman2004]

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I know . . . it sure looked like a foul. I said that. Everytime Kwadzo draws a foul while trying to get open on an inbounds play, it looks like a foul.

All I'm saying is that I've seen him do it enough over the years, to know that he initiates a lot of the contact.

And I'm sorry, but NO WAY does GMU foul us on purpose, putting our best player at the free throw line to tie the game (Kwadzo was 8-10 for the night, not sure what you mean by "shaky"). No way. We were down by only two. If we were down by three, maybe I could see that logic. But no way were they "giving" us a foul in that instance. That foul would've been their 10th, if I'm not mistaken, giving Kwadzo two shots.