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    Bracketology = bcs

    so Missoura State wins 25 games, their regular season conference title, make it to the final of their conference tournament, and get no NCAA tournament. Michigan State goes 9-9 in their conference 18-13 overall, played like crap including a loss to a horrible Iowa team as well as squeeking out a win over the same craptastic Iowa team and they are a lock to get in? So the four at large is now just for the big guys to make more money while the little guys get jack squat. I only care because UNI would have been out of the tourney had they not won the MVC Tourney last year and only had 4 losses. I think that most people would prefer the UNI - KU match up than another big school coming in and losing to another big school by double digits. Maybe I'm crazy but that was a lot more fun
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    Re: Bracketology = bcs

    Originally posted by jnutt View Post
    so Missoura State wins 25 games, their regular season conference title, make it to the final of their conference tournament, and get no NCAA tournament. Michigan State goes 9-9 in their conference 18-13 overall, played like crap including a loss to a horrible Iowa team as well as squeeking out a win over the same craptastic Iowa team and they are a lock to get in? So the four at large is now just for the big guys to make more money while the little guys get jack squat. I only care because UNI would have been out of the tourney had they not won the MVC Tourney last year and only had 4 losses. I think that most people would prefer the UNI - KU match up than another big school coming in and losing to another big school by double digits. Maybe I'm crazy but that was a lot more fun
    Normally I'd agree with you. However, MSU would not have that same record had they played Michigan State's schedule, and Michigan State would likely have Missouri States record. I'd say this year the two are probably about even, and when that is the case they bid will always go to the name program.

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    • #3
      Re: Bracketology = bcs

      i thought your last 10 games was important... Missoura State OWNS Michigan State in that. Who loses to Iowa in basketball and makes the NCAA?

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      • #4
        Re: Bracketology = bcs

        Originally posted by jnutt View Post
        i thought your last 10 games was important... Missoura State OWNS Michigan State in that. Who loses to Iowa in basketball and makes the NCAA?
        Um...us in the last two years?

        I'm not saying I *agree* with picking Michigan State, because I don't. However, they are probably even with Missouri State right now and when even is the case it will always go to the bigger name school.

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        • #5
          Re: Bracketology = bcs

          no we didn't. we lost to the harlem globetrotters

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          • #6
            Re: Bracketology = bcs

            Originally posted by jnutt View Post
            no we didn't. we lost to the harlem globetrotters
            12/09/08 Carver-Hawkeye Arena, Iowa City, IA Iowa 65, Northern Iowa 46

            We then won the conference and lost to Purdue.

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            • #7
              Re: Bracketology = bcs

              Originally posted by jnutt View Post
              i thought your last 10 games was important... Missoura State OWNS Michigan State in that. Who loses to Iowa in basketball and makes the NCAA?
              Just for the record I think 'last 10 games' is no longer an official criteria for selection.

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              • #8
                Re: Bracketology = bcs

                Originally posted by MnPantherFan View Post
                Just for the record I think 'last 10 games' is no longer an official criteria for selection.
                it is according to the talking heads with their tourney resumes. and as far as the Globetrotters comment, it was a joke.

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                • #9
                  Re: Bracketology = bcs

                  Originally posted by jnutt View Post
                  so Missoura State wins 25 games, their regular season conference title, make it to the final of their conference tournament, and get no NCAA tournament. Michigan State goes 9-9 in their conference 18-13 overall, played like crap including a loss to a horrible Iowa team as well as squeeking out a win over the same craptastic Iowa team and they are a lock to get in? So the four at large is now just for the big guys to make more money while the little guys get jack squat. I only care because UNI would have been out of the tourney had they not won the MVC Tourney last year and only had 4 losses. I think that most people would prefer the UNI - KU match up than another big school coming in and losing to another big school by double digits. Maybe I'm crazy but that was a lot more fun
                  Nobody is calling Michigan State a lock to get in but you. This entire post is complete nonsense.

                  UNI would have easily mad the tournament last year, even with a loss in St. Louis.

                  The Valley, including Missouri State, completely embarrassed itself every time it stepped out of the league this year. If MSU falls short, that is why.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Bracketology = bcs

                    Originally posted by UNI83 View Post
                    12/09/08 Carver-Hawkeye Arena, Iowa City, IA Iowa 65, Northern Iowa 46

                    We then won the conference and lost to Purdue.
                    We also started out that season at 6-6 and then went on a long winning streak, so the last 10 games did matter for us. Also we wouldn't have been an at large team that year, this years Missouri State team has a lot better resume than we did that year, for that matter so does Wichita.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Bracketology = bcs

                      Originally posted by Panther789 View Post
                      Nobody is calling Michigan State a lock to get in but you. This entire post is complete nonsense.
                      SETH DAVIS via twitter said they were an absolute lock.

                      @SethDavisHoops Seth davis
                      You can move Michigan State off all those "last four in" lists. They're in with room to spare.


                      so much for your nonsense

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                      • #12
                        Re: Bracketology = bcs

                        Originally posted by jnutt View Post
                        SETH DAVIS via twitter said they were an absolute lock.

                        @SethDavisHoops Seth davis
                        You can move Michigan State off all those "last four in" lists. They're in with room to spare.


                        so much for your nonsense
                        Fair enough. Lunardi and Bracketology 101 both have them in, but still in danger.

                        As for your original point, you have still done almost nothing other than argue Missouri State has a better record.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Bracketology = bcs

                          come on guys, in other years this might be true but the MVC is horrible this year and everyone knows it. look at the OOC records.

                          MSU is a better team than, uh, MSU.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Bracketology = bcs

                            Mo state went 25-8 and 15-3 in a down but still tough MVC. They played tough against #23 Tennessee and Oklahoma State that upset a #15 Mizzoura team. SOS and RPI not as high due to the Valley beating each other up and defending champion UNI falling down the stretch. Then again, what does an RPI matter if you have a 21 and don't get in years ago. Seems crazy that the 3-4 day stretch in a tourney can overshadow a season of success. 8-2 in the last 10. Mich State 5-5.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Bracketology = bcs

                              This isn't an argument for MSU but Villanova lost 10 of their last 15 games. I know the Big East is tough but if you are not one of the 10 best teams in your league...I don't care to finish the statement.

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