Jacobson to Mizzou mention in Pat Forde's ESPN chat

[UNIChippewa]

About 3/4th's of the way down the page, actually might be the 2nd to 3rd last question asked.

I don't see Mizzou being a good fit, but then again what do I know? I do agree with other posters who have said that either Minnesota or Wisconsin are more natural fits. I hope that Tubby and Bo stick around for a long time.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/37694

[UNI83]

Re: Jacobson to Mizzou mention in Pat Forde's ESPN chat

Here is the mention of it

Yahtzee (Kansas City) If Painter stays at Purdue, who would be your top realistic candidate for the Mizzou vacancy?
Pat Forde (2:58 PM)Yahtzee: I'd like to see Mizzou talk to Ben Jacobson at Northern Iowa. He impresses me, though I don't know how he'd do recruiting against Bill Self and Rick Bar

[pantherfan4ever]

Re: Jacobson to Mizzou mention in Pat Forde's ESPN chat

Pat Forde is a big Mid-Major supporter so I was a bit surprised that he basically says he's impressed with Jacobson and would like to see him at a bigger school. Thought his stance would have been more for seeing coaches like Jacobson stay where they are and continue to build these quality mid-major programs.

[UNI83]

Re: Jacobson to Mizzou mention in Pat Forde's ESPN chat

I must be reading that different than you two.

I don't see him saying he wants Jake to go to Mizzou. He thinks Mizzou should talk to Jake, but he doesn't know how Jake would do recruiting against Kansas, Texas, etc...

[UNIpanther99]

Re: Jacobson to Mizzou mention in Pat Forde's ESPN chat

Forde is a Mizzou guy though right? I think he's saying it as a fan of the Tigers and it should be taken as a compliment. I think generally he has said he likes it when coaches stay put, but this case is different because he has a personal interest.

[Panther-Sheik]

Re: Jacobson to Mizzou mention in Pat Forde's ESPN chat

The thing to remember about Jake (or any other individual for that matter...coach or not) is that there are many other, even more important things at play whenever a job or career change is considered. Maybe he and his wife just truly feel happy and at peace here in the Cedar Valley, both professionally and personally. If a person isn't disgruntled with their current job, and is making a good living, and is raising their family the way they want to, then it becomes much more difficult to simply chase dollars. I have been offered and have turned down jobs out of area that would have paid me more money. I didn't take them because I know the grass isn't always greener and money can be a really bad reason to give up a great situation that my family and I have here in the Cedar Valley. I know that many coaches are professionally / monetarily driven, but it doesn't have to be a genetic disposition to the profession. If Coach Jake does choose to leave at some point, so be it. He has the right, although I will feel a huge sense of loss. But I'm not going to walk on egg shells, feeling nervous and semi-depressed about him leaving us when he has never shown any signs of even wanting to leave. In fact, he has shown the opposite to date. Here's to Jake growing old in the Cedar Valley with me and wearing Panther purple and gold while doing it.

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Jacobson to Mizzou mention in Pat Forde's ESPN chat

multiple people are reporting that mizzou is hiring cael painter, err i mean matt sanderson, oops i mean matt painter. crazy if true.

[AmesPanther]

Re: Jacobson to Mizzou mention in Pat Forde's ESPN chat

I'm getting tired of the coaching changes.

[pantherfan4ever]

Re: Jacobson to Mizzou mention in Pat Forde's ESPN chat

The thing to remember about Jake (or any other individual for that matter...coach or not) is that there are many other, even more important things at play whenever a job or career change is considered. Maybe he and his wife just truly feel happy and at peace here in the Cedar Valley, both professionally and personally. If a person isn't disgruntled with their current job, and is making a good living, and is raising their family the way they want to, then it becomes much more difficult to simply chase dollars. I have been offered and have turned down jobs out of area that would have paid me more money. I didn't take them because I know the grass isn't always greener and money can be a really bad reason to give up a great situation that my family and I have here in the Cedar Valley. I know that many coaches are professionally / monetarily driven, but it doesn't have to be a genetic disposition to the profession. If Coach Jake does choose to leave at some point, so be it. He has the right, although I will feel a huge sense of loss. But I'm not going to walk on egg shells, feeling nervous and semi-depressed about him leaving us when he has never shown any signs of even wanting to leave. In fact, he has shown the opposite to date. Here's to Jake growing old in the Cedar Valley with me and wearing Panther purple and gold while doing it.

I didn't see anyone in this thread expressing concern, "semi-depressed," walking on egg shells, or feeling nervous about Jake possibly leaving. I also didn't see anyone bring up worries about Jake bolting for more cash. I would say that most of us who have professional jobs understand there is more to a decision than money (I to have turned town jobs that would pay twice as much). So, I guess I am a bit confused as to what your point was in your post? Who/what were you responding too? Maybe you are referring to posts in other threads?

I can only speak for myself, but I wasn't mad at Mac for leaving (more disapointed in the way it happened) and I wouldn't be if Jacobson did either. We (sports fans) seem to view coaching as a having totally different rules than any other profession. We view coaches that move schools as being traitors, money hungry, and often times as though they have betrayed us or owe it to us to stay. When looked at through the lense of being a job, that just doesn't make sense (in my opinion). We assume that because we are fans of a particular team that the coach should be a "loyal fan" for life by staying. Instead, look at it as a job. Most of us, if offered a job that we felt helped our family, would jump all over it. Sometimes that is money, sometimes location, extended family, etc. Very much depends on the priorities of the person. I have moved positions 4 times over the past 6 years and each time I did so because it benefited my family (location, financially, etc.) and because I felt the new position was the right move for me (professionally, fitting my strengths, etc.). I have been lucky to have employers that were dedicated to assisting me grow and move up/into positions that continued to challenge me and put me in the best position/location for me and my family. As fans, it seems we sometimes lose site of this with coaches and think of it in terms of our own desire to see our team do well, instead of trying to put ourselves in the shoes of the coach.

I would LOVE to see Jake stay for a longgg time, but would also be the first one to thank him for his time and wish him great luck if he decided to accept another position that he felt was better for him and his family.

[pantherfan4ever]

Re: Jacobson to Mizzou mention in Pat Forde's ESPN chat

Forde is a Mizzou guy though right? I think he's saying it as a fan of the Tigers and it should be taken as a compliment. I think generally he has said he likes it when coaches stay put, but this case is different because he has a personal interest.

I wasn't aware of this. In this case, his comment makes total sense. Of course he would want his team to speak with a good coach like Jacobson. Thanks for clarifying that.

[Hail Our Panthers]

Re: Jacobson to Mizzou mention in Pat Forde's ESPN chat

If you're happy..why mess with it?

Thats the message Brad Stevens has used over and over again

[pantherfan4ever]

Re: Jacobson to Mizzou mention in Pat Forde's ESPN chat

If you're happy..why mess with it?

Thats the message Brad Stevens has used over and over again

ya, and Brad Stevens is in a GREAT place at Butler!!! He is technically at a "mid-major" but has a GREAT recruiting area to tap into! Kids will want to go to Butler.

[Panther-Sheik]

Re: Jacobson to Mizzou mention in Pat Forde's ESPN chat

I didn't see anyone in this thread expressing concern, "semi-depressed," walking on egg shells, or feeling nervous about Jake possibly leaving. I also didn't see anyone bring up worries about Jake bolting for more cash. I would say that most of us who have professional jobs understand there is more to a decision than money (I to have turned town jobs that would pay twice as much). So, I guess I am a bit confused as to what your point was in your post? Who/what were you responding too? Maybe you are referring to posts in other threads?

I can only speak for myself, but I wasn't mad at Mac for leaving (more disapointed in the way it happened) and I wouldn't be if Jacobson did either. We (sports fans) seem to view coaching as a having totally different rules than any other profession. We view coaches that move schools as being traitors, money hungry, and often times as though they have betrayed us or owe it to us to stay. When looked at through the lense of being a job, that just doesn't make sense (in my opinion). We assume that because we are fans of a particular team that the coach should be a "loyal fan" for life by staying. Instead, look at it as a job. Most of us, if offered a job that we felt helped our family, would jump all over it. Sometimes that is money, sometimes location, extended family, etc. Very much depends on the priorities of the person. I have moved positions 4 times over the past 6 years and each time I did so because it benefited my family (location, financially, etc.) and because I felt the new position was the right move for me (professionally, fitting my strengths, etc.). I have been lucky to have employers that were dedicated to assisting me grow and move up/into positions that continued to challenge me and put me in the best position/location for me and my family. As fans, it seems we sometimes lose site of this with coaches and think of it in terms of our own desire to see our team do well, instead of trying to put ourselves in the shoes of the coach.

I would LOVE to see Jake stay for a longgg time, but would also be the first one to thank him for his time and wish him great luck if he decided to accept another position that he felt was better for him and his family.

Sorry for the confusion. This was a comment regarding not just this thread but the other "Jake to Mizzou"-like thread(s) on here. Just general comments not directed at anyone in particular, but in response to posts of concern for Jake's future at UNI and his desire (or lack of) to cash-grab. If you have a few hours you can catch up: http://www.panthernation.com/showthread.php?t=39411

[pantherfan4ever]

Re: Jacobson to Mizzou mention in Pat Forde's ESPN chat

Sorry for the confusion. This was a comment regarding not just this thread but the other "Jake to Mizzou"-like thread(s) on here. Just general comments not directed at anyone in particular, but in response to posts of concern for Jake's future at UNI and his desire (or lack of) to cash-grab. If you have a few hours you can catch up: http://www.panthernation.com/showthread.php?t=39411

ya, there are plenty panther fans stressing about jake leaving. Just didn't see any in this thread so was confused. no worries I just figure that as a mid-major school we will always have the chance that our good coaches will leave at some point for a bigger school. I just choose not to let it consume me..haha.

[UNI Prof]

Re: Jacobson to Mizzou mention in Pat Forde's ESPN chat

Mizzou will want a guy that can recruit STL. Jake, although he landed AJ, isn't that guy.