Primetime League

[9YRPLAN]

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[CR Panther]

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bohannon went in the 4th round...before oglesby

I watch MBohannon play at a UNI camp a couple weeks ago. Full scrimmage against camp participants. Then, full scrimmage against "a collection of college athletes".

He is so smart and can already mix it up with the starters. I honestly was surprised how well he already fit in with the pace, knew where to be, and was very aggressive.

He has really benefited from playing under a great coaching staff and playing with above average talent for years now.

I know many think he may get a redshirt. I think he is further along than most think.

[DownGoesKansas]

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I think he is further along than most think.

This. I watched him at Linn-Mar and McDermott at Ames. Honestly I got the same feeling watching Bohannon as I got watching McDermott. Barnes/Paige were obviously the better athletes and better recruit but Bohannon/McDermott just looked like very good basketball players and some of the time looked like the best player on the floor.

[UNI83]

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This. I watched him at Linn-Mar and McDermott at Ames. Honestly I got the same feeling watching Bohannon as I got watching McDermott. Barnes/Paige were obviously the better athletes and better recruit but Bohannon/McDermott just looked like very good basketball players and some of the time looked like the best player on the floor.

I still don't see anyone on the roster that we have coming back that he plays a head of and takes time from.

My thinking he redshirts isn't a knock on his talent. It's saying that we have AJ who is will be a JR, Johnny will be a SR, Marc will be a JR, plus Martino as a RFR, Morrison as a RSO, and Deon who will likely be a star.

While M-Bo may have more talent right now than Morrison and Martino they play the same position and those two have more college season experience. There is zero wrong with letting M-Bo get a year under him and then get 4 years.

[06panther10]

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That may very well be true about Bohannon, but the fact is we got a lot of players right now fighting for minutes, and most of this freshman class has to be redshirting.

If it were up to me, I would redshirt everyone except for Mitchell and pick between Tuttle/Singleton depending on how they do this summer and in camp next fall.

I think that Singleton has the more college ready body between the two guys, so as of now, I would probably redshirt Tuttle. I think that would set us up for the future very nicely.

That would give us 1 guard and 1 post to use next year.


Edit: forgot about Olivier. Maybe having him gives us the option to redshirt Tuttle and Singleton? Who knows. Coach Jake has a lot of options and a lot of decisions to make this offseason.

[06panther10]

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Just to compare, think about 2006 when we had guys like Koch and Jordan coming in for us in the post. They came in and we absolutely had to play them right away because of the lack of post depth and overall team depth. They were really talented recruits and we all had high hopes for them but they definitely could have benefited from a redshirt year if we could have afforded it.

We couldn't afford it then, but we can now because of the depth we have built. Everyone wants to see all of these freshman play right away, but redshirting them could pay off for us big time in a few years. I'd rather do that than have some of them get 3-4 minutes a game averaging 1 point per game.

Imagine if we had Adam Koch and Jordan Egleseder for another year? How good would we have been last year?

[UNI83]

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That may very well be true about Bohannon, but the fact is we got a lot of players right now fighting for minutes, and most of this freshman class has to be redshirting.

If it were up to me, I would redshirt everyone except for Mitchell and pick between Tuttle/Singleton depending on how they do this summer and in camp next fall.

I think that Singleton has the more college ready body between the two guys, so as of now, I would probably redshirt Tuttle. I think that would set us up for the future very nicely.

That would give us 1 guard and 1 post to use next year.

I agree with much of this. It sounds like Tuttle won't be redshirting so it would be Tuttle/Mitchell.

We only have 1 senior this year, there is no reason burn a year on 6 freshman when the depth is there to redshirt at least 3, if not 4, of them.

[panther-state]

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Most of these kids could really benefit from a full year in the Jacobson Human Performance Complex (i.e. weightroom) before taking the court in purple and gold. As much as I would love to see Singleton and Co. hoop it up together nest season, it will be even better to see these guys dominating the MVC together for the years to come after getting some quality coaching for a season first.

[Trapped in California]

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While the talk has been about the offensive end, who red shirts (beyond Mitchell) will really depend on how well they pickup the help defense scheme, if I understand Jake's mentality. Singleton is going to have an advantage over Tuttle on the defensive end because of his physical strength - don't know about those intangibles of "finding a way of getting to the ball regardless", footwork, endurance, etc. Olivier looks as he could benefit from some time in the weight room also, to maximize what God gave him.

[UNI83]

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While the talk has been about the offensive end, who red shirts (beyond Mitchell) will really depend on how well they pickup the help defense scheme, if I understand Jake's mentality. Singleton is going to have an advantage over Tuttle on the defensive end because of his physical strength - don't know about those intangibles of "finding a way of getting to the ball regardless", footwork, endurance, etc. Olivier looks as he could benefit from some time in the weight room also, to maximize what God gave him.

I would love to see Olivier redshir, after reading some quotes from his prep school coach, just to get him another year of getting into good basketball shape. I don't see that happening though.


To sum up what I read from his prep coach - "When he came to me he could barely get up the court for a full game, didn't have much of a face up game, and was very unpolished". If Olivier made that much improvement in one year at the prep level, a year under a good D1 coaching staff could make a HUGE difference.

[UNIPNTHR]

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While the talk has been about the offensive end, who red shirts (beyond Mitchell) will really depend on how well they pickup the help defense scheme, if I understand Jake's mentality.

Kaboom. Great post.

If we know ANYTHING about Panther basketball under Coach Jake, it's that defense and ball control will dictate the playing time.

Control possession, force low % shots on def, take high % shots on off. It's a proven formula that gives us a chance beat anyone.