The Sky is Falling Thread 2011-12 Version

[jnutt]

oh **** we've lost 3 games. Oh the humanity. **** my life.

oh, we're still 10-3

[achrist70]

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We need to fire Ben Jacobson

[Neighbor]

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We need to fire Ben Jacobson

and hire Fran McCaffery because he's a great basketball mind

[jman2004]

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In all fairness, we've looked sluggish two games in a row now, be it flu or whatever. We're going to get beat down low a lot this year. Just a fact of the matter. We have become a jump shooting team and we're going to live and die by that. We have no down low presence and don't appear to be a good rebounding team.

My expectations were low to begin the season, then were raised quite a bit after the great start. They're beginning to fall back to earth a bit.

[jnutt]

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we were outrebounded 38-30 last night and Seth Tuttle has looked great for a freshman. And Pehl is better. I don't buy the "no inside presence" argument

[9YRPLAN]

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we need to attack the hoop, plain and simple. even more so on the road. its maddening to have guys in AJ, sonnen, deon, and moran that can get by their man but settle for deep J's

[Born-a-Panther]

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We were on a roll and then finals week and the flu happened. Then Christmas happened and another long break in between games. Time to get back into a rhythm.

[jman2004]

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we were outrebounded 38-30 last night and Seth Tuttle has looked great for a freshman. And Pehl is better. I don't buy the "no inside presence" argument

You say that as if getting outrebounded by 8 is not too bad a deal.

We've only been outscored down low in 6 of our 13 games. I admit, that'snot as bad as I thought. We've been outrebounded in 8 of our 13 games. Yet we've managed a 10-3 record.

Our only options at the forward position are Tuttle and Pehl, the two you mention. Whether Tuttle has looked good as a freshman and whether or not Pehl is improving is beside the point. They are still our only two real options. And neither play enough to truly be considered serious threats. They need to get even better and I really would love to see Jake crash the boards on the offensive end. If our guards are going to not penetrate and create and settle for jump shots, we're going to need to get a few offensive rebounds each game and Jake could help out there. Very rarely though, does he even attempt.

I think next year, we'll be greatly improved and seriously compete for the conference. This year, my expectations have definitely tempered over the last few games.

[UNIHH1997]

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AJ did have 21 points but he also went 9-21 from the floor. Next closest Johnny at 3-10 then a few others with 7 attempts.

Deon Mitch sounded frustrated on Twitter based on some of his posts last night. I'm guessing he would like AJ to not shoot so much. But what do I know.

I hope we can keep in the mix this year. But I'm figuring on us winning some we shouldn't and losing others we shouldn't as well.

Go Cats!

[panther2317]

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If UNI loses...just look at the box score...you will find three things that most certainly lead to the loss.

1. UNI attempted more than 20 3-point shots and made less than 35% of them.
2. UNI was out rebounded.
3. UNI attempted less free throws than the opponent.

It's a simple game. When UNI is unable to win these battles...they lose more than they win. It happens. Let's just hope they can control these three areas in the games to come. Go Panthers!

[Hail Our Panthers]

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We shot 2 FT's I believe. That goes back to what 9yr said

[clenz]

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we were outrebounded 38-30 last night and Seth Tuttle has looked great for a freshman. And Pehl is better. I don't buy the "no inside presence" argument

We have a presense, but we are lacking experience in the post. That was clear with the way Carmichael pushed Tuttle around. Part of that is Tuttle is a true frosh at 210ish...Carmichael is a 3rd year starter/full-time player at 240. Tuttle will get there, but won't this season. Pehl has the size to play that game, but is missing the finesse piece yet.

This year will be full of ups and downs, and it will be frsturating as hell watching PN get way to high after each win and WAY WAY WAY to damn low after each loss because, for whatever reason, over-reacting is one of the biggest rules of being a PN poster apparently.

Carmichael will own us this year, McMoney and Echique will own us this year, I'm sure Weems and Ryan will have good days against us as well. However, give Tuttle a year to develop, Pehl will develop as the season goes on and into next season, Buss will help some (even though he isn't a true post), Singleton will be improved and Olivier will be available next year. I'm not giving up on this year, don't take this post this way. I think we can easily finish 3rd or 4th this season, but the post play won't be what we want (and thus lead to constant *****ing on here) and we will shoot a lot of threes (again leading to more *****ing) but we will be fine.


Again, even though this is our second year out from the incident imagine having Doug McD right now in our post. Tuttle could redshirt, Pehl would be a great minute eater, singleton could RS, Jake wouldn't be forced to try to add some post play to his game, and there would be stability. That screw job we got set our post play back about 2 or 3 years.

[BCPanther]

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We have a presense, but we are lacking experience in the post. That was clear with the way Carmichael pushed Tuttle around. Part of that is Tuttle is a true frosh at 210ish...Carmichael is a 3rd year starter/full-time player at 240. Tuttle will get there, but won't this season. Pehl has the size to play that game, but is missing the finesse piece yet.

This year will be full of ups and downs, and it will be frsturating as hell watching PN get way to high after each win and WAY WAY WAY to damn low after each loss because, for whatever reason, over-reacting is one of the biggest rules of being a PN poster apparently.

Carmichael will own us this year, McMoney and Echique will own us this year, I'm sure Weems and Ryan will have good days against us as well. However, give Tuttle a year to develop, Pehl will develop as the season goes on and into next season, Buss will help some (even though he isn't a true post), Singleton will be improved and Olivier will be available next year. I'm not giving up on this year, don't take this post this way. I think we can easily finish 3rd or 4th this season, but the post play won't be what we want (and thus lead to constant *****ing on here) and we will shoot a lot of threes (again leading to more *****ing) but we will be fine.


Again, even though this is our second year out from the incident imagine having Doug McD right now in our post. Tuttle could redshirt, Pehl would be a great minute eater, singleton could RS, Jake wouldn't be forced to try to add some post play to his game, and there would be stability. That screw job we got set our post play back about 2 or 3 years.

This.

We are definitely a year ahead of where I think we all thought we would be.

The way we lost both McDouchieFresh and Josh Gasser and our continued success shows how good Jake is and how strong the program is. I see us finishing 2nd or 3rd and being I'm the at large conversation. All is good with this program right now.

[jman2004]

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This year will be full of ups and downs, and it will be frsturating as hell watching PN get way to high after each win and WAY WAY WAY to damn low after each loss because, for whatever reason, over-reacting is one of the biggest rules of being a PN poster apparently.

Just for clarification, that's the way it is with MOST fanbases of most sports teams throughout the country. PN is not unique in this. Not in the least. Passionate fans react in many different ways to their teams winning and losing.

[TommyT]

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we need to attack the hoop, plain and simple. even more so on the road. its maddening to have guys in AJ, sonnen, deon, and moran that can get by their man but settle for deep J's

The maddening thing is that when they do get by their guy and can't make the shot. The Illinois St game exposed what happens to our offense when we DON'T make the extra pass and decide to take it ourselves. How many times did we get a turnover and then hoist up a shot even before we had the rest of the team back to set up the offense or get a rebound. We did not play like UNI against the Redbirds.