I know this is the basketball forum

[panthertastic]

But please do the university a favor and look at this petition. Whether you sign it or not (or even look at it) is up to you, but please support UNI whichever way you feel is right.

http://www.change.org/petitions/university-of-northern-iowa-president-keep-malcolm-price-laboratory-school-open-for-education

[Newsbreaker]

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Close that motha down.

[95UNIGRAD]

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Why the negative attitude, newsy? I support what you guys are doing - it really is a great place for students-becoming-teachers to gain experience in their profession. It would be a shame if that was lost. I was one of those teachers-in-waiting almost 20 years ago, and I'm glad I spent time there on my way to becoming an educator myself. Schools need new blood, energy, and excitement, and young teachers can provide that. A well-written proposal.

I'll save the forum nannies the time, though, and tell you this should probably be somewhere like The Lounge instead, though. No worries - you might not have known that.

[Newsbreaker]

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No negativity. In fact, this is very positive. UNI, like all public universities, has to cut costs and find savings to remain both competitive and viable. That means taking a long, hard, look at all aspects of the school and deciding what is truly essential (and cost effective) and what isn't.

PLS isn't.

If it were generating research dollars as a R&D facility, things might be different. It isn't. It's an expensive luxury, but make no mistake, it is a luxury.

If it were generating new and innovative teaching ideas which were creating a superior department at UNI and generating national (and international) acclaim and regard, things might be different. It isn't. It is like other "lab" schools in name only.

UNI is supposed to be (and historically was) the "education" school. In my opinion, particularly with the el ed folks, its reputation is 98% self-congratulations, 1% history and 1% honest reputation.

Just for fun, I looked up UNI's ranking among Education (graduate) departments. It's 151st this year. Both Iowa and Iowa State are in the top-100 (without a "lab" school). It's long past time someone sits that department down, which *should* be the flagship of the entire University, and introduces them to reality.

President Allen has difficult decisions to make, and I applaud him for making this one. The things PLS is accomplishing can happen more cheaply and efficiently at other area schools.

[Codytwo]

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I'd rather see Price Lab go, than to see another athletic program go, and then we have to go down to DII.

My answer = NO!

[ubuntuCAT]

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I'd rather see Price Lab go, than to see another athletic program go, and then we have to go down to DII.

My answer = NO!

we can still cut a sport and remain division one.

[Newsbreaker]

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we can still cut a sport and remain division one.

Look out tomorrow. Seriously.

[BCPanther]

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No negativity. In fact, this is very positive. UNI, like all public universities, has to cut costs and find savings to remain both competitive and viable. That means taking a long, hard, look at all aspects of the school and deciding what is truly essential (and cost effective) and what isn't.

PLS isn't.

If it were generating research dollars as a R&D facility, things might be different. It isn't. It's an expensive luxury, but make no mistake, it is a luxury.

If it were generating new and innovative teaching ideas which were creating a superior department at UNI and generating national (and international) acclaim and regard, things might be different. It isn't. It is like other "lab" schools in name only.

UNI is supposed to be (and historically was) the "education" school. In my opinion, particularly with the el ed folks, its reputation is 98% self-congratulations, 1% history and 1% honest reputation.

Just for fun, I looked up UNI's ranking among Education (graduate) departments. It's 151st this year. Both Iowa and Iowa State are in the top-100 (without a "lab" school). It's long past time someone sits that department down, which *should* be the flagship of the entire University, and introduces them to reality.

President Allen has difficult decisions to make, and I applaud him for making this one. The things PLS is accomplishing can happen more cheaply and efficiently at other area schools.

This should be required reading for everyone complaining about the closure. Not to mention the tuition scandals of the past couple of years.

[Codytwo]

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Take a look at the following link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_I_%28NCAA%29

I'm most interested in the following: "All Division I schools must field athletes in at least seven sports for men and seven for women or six for men and eight for women, with two team sports for each gender. There are several other NCAA sanctioned minimums and differences that distinguish Division I from Divisions II and III."

Currently we have 6 men's sports and 9 women's sports, so I guess we can cut 1 women's sport.

[95UNIGRAD]

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Take a look at the following link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_I_%28NCAA%29

I'm most interested in the following: "All Division I schools must field athletes in at least seven sports for men and seven for women or six for men and eight for women, with two team sports for each gender. There are several other NCAA sanctioned minimums and differences that distinguish Division I from Divisions II and III."

Currently we have 6 men's sports and 9 women's sports, so I guess we can cut 1 women's sport.

So which one gets the ax then, if it comes to saving a buck?

Thanks for the explanation, News, I go to a lot of UNI sporting events, but it's obviously been a while since I've kept abreast of what's going on in CF and the university otherwise...feel kind of out of the loop. What's up with the tuition scandal mentioned on this thread? (I live 1 1/2 hrs. away after living for several years out of state and then coming back, so I don't keep up with any of this stuff)?

[BCPanther]

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People were encouraged to falsify their addresses in order to be in the PLS district and therefore avoid paying tuition to have their kids go there.

[Kyle]

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Newsy is right, close it down. And don't make the horrible mistake of turning the place into another tax exempt money pit. We all know some politician or administrator is going to have grand ideas of spending $5MM to renovate it into a solar powered botanical center.

Sell it to a private developer who will turn it into apartments and let the government actually start making money off the building.

[panther-state]

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President Allen has difficult decisions to make, and I applaud him for making this one. The things PLS is accomplishing can happen more cheaply and efficiently at other area schools.

As someone who has recently experienced MPLS and it's benefits I completely disagree. However what's done is done and I stand by President Allen in his decision, despite signing that petition, but there is absolutely NO WAY that any school in the surrounding area can provide the experience that MPLS did. It was a special part of the education program and I think all future education students will be losing out on a great experience.

[clenz]

Look out tomorrow. Seriously.

Serum coach resigned today....timing is odd

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[Kyle]

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I don't think they can cut a women's sport and still remain title 9 compliant.

My guess is Wrestling (which isn't likely given the new renovations in the West Gym) or mens Track and Field.

Honestly, what other men's sports do we even have to cut?