Butler to A10

[jnutt]

Oh what could have been...

Wish we had them in the MVC!

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2012/05/butler-joining-atlantic-10-leaving-horizon-league/1?csp=34sports&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+UsatodaycomCollegeMensBasketball-TopStories+%28Sports+-+College+Men%27s+Basketball+-+Top+Stories%29#.T6GArdXO-M8

[porkchop]

Re: Butler to A10

There was some small hinting of the of the A-10 possibly crumbling in the ever flowing conference realignment landscape, and that a new Midwestern version of the A-10 could possibly form with the likes of Butler, Xavier, Dayton, Creighton, etc. Butler bolting the for A-10 is good news for any rumors or minute thoughts of Creighton leaving the MVC ...... no matter how much we hate them they are a large part of what makes out conference great.

[jnutt]

Re: Butler to A10

i remember something about a Catholic Conference forming. I hope that doesn't happen because the MVC will be screwed but it wouldn't be bad to not have to deal with CU fans. Though they are a necessary evil

[orangetennis]

Re: Butler to A10

any rumblings of the mvc expanding?

[BCPanther]

Re: Butler to A10

No, the MVC is going to sit back, slowly get picked apart and end up resembling the Summit League and since we absolutely refuse to look at FBS Football, we will be there to experience it!

[9YRPLAN]

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No, the MVC is going to sit back, slowly get picked apart and end up resembling the Summit League and since we absolutely refuse to look at FBS Football, we will be there to experience it!

FBS football is on the table. its just not viable or prudent at this moment.

[JayJ79]

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No, the MVC is going to sit back, slowly get picked apart and end up resembling the Summit League and since we absolutely refuse to look at FBS Football, we will be there to experience it!

Must be a VERY slow picking-apart process. Last school to leave the MVC was Tulsa in '96. And before that it was West Texas State in '85.

[clenz]

Re: Butler to A10

Creighton and WSU aren't going anywhere unless there is a "catholic league" started or someone like the A10 decides they want 17-20 teams in the league.

MSU/ISUr are the only two schools I see that could/would be going somewhere if the time came. However, right now the state of Illinois is even more F-ed with funding that Iowa is.

MSU was always in the "CUSA" rumors, mostly by MSU fans. However, they have the funding and what not to get an invite. They are doing massive renovations to their stadium, JHQ Arena is very nice (minus the locker room issue, which I would guess won't hold anyone back from an invite).


While CU and WSU have decent markets, both of them are very much so second/third fiddle in them. Wichita is a lot like UNI in that they are clearly #3 in their state, and while they may push KSU for second some years because of a basketball run (UNI and ISU) in overall fan base they are third. Not only that CU/WSU don't have football, which in a lot of these realignments is key. Unless, like I said, the A10 wants a huge league.

CU is second in the state of Nebraska in terms of fan base. They do, however, have an alumni base with VERY deep pockets. They may have the more popular basketball program, but overall they are very much second to NU in everything....by a long shot. Their reach also doesn't expand much past the Omaha area. SW Iowa is pretty much all Iowa and Nebraska....

[jnutt]

Re: Butler to A10

Wichita not a State is Catholic?

[UNIGrainer]

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I think the MVC remains intact, and will remain intact for the forseeable future, because.....

The two schools with the biggest fanbases and pockets (WSU and CU) don't have football, and are therefore not attractive to the higher mid-major football leagues that are reforming. There is no basketball-first league, like the A-10, from which to pick our teams from in our footprint at the moment. The A-10 would be the most likely place for CU or WSU to go at this point. The CAA was the MVC of the east, and they got eaten by the A-10. Who's going to do that here?

And expanding does us no good unless the teams we absorb add to the league and make a stronger, more attractive place to be. Expanding for expansion sake would probably hurt us more than help us.

Here's a question, are we to the point that, if we did go FBS, we would be attractive to the MAC's of the world? Also, what say you about NMSU and Idaho joining the MVC (assuming they found a different place to put their football teams).

[BCPanther]

Re: Butler to A10

I think New Mexico State would be a really good fit, Idaho not so much.

Go to 11 teams and keep the true round robin. Nobody can get OOC games anyway...

[DrewDog]

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Wichita not a State is Catholic?

No, it is a public state university.

[JayJ79]

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I'm sure the non-revenue sports would just love having to travel to New Mexico and/or Idaho.

[Kyle]

Re: Butler to A10

Whatever happened to Air Force jumping on board?

[orangetennis]

Re: Butler to A10

as much as we all hate to admit it, I think the Dakota schools make more sense.