Up Next: Evansville

[coachdon]

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The possibility of playing a Thursday night game in St. Louis is immaterial really. No matter when they play, they are highly unlikely to win the Tournament or play in the NCAA's. The main point is that the program was supposed to be set up for a really good year this season with all the seniors and not losing much from the previous year. And they are not very good. You just don't see growth and improvement as guys move through the program from Freshman to Senior. Either the players are not working very hard on their games or the coaching is awful. Guys are here for 5 years and are the same player as they were as freshmen. Also, the player rotations and lineups are a complete mess. I have always liked Jacobsen as a person. And I thought he was the right hire when McDermott left, but I think it may be time to move on to a new idea with a new guy.

[Kyle]

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The possibility of playing a Thursday night game in St. Louis is immaterial really. No matter when they play, they are highly unlikely to win the Tournament or play in the NCAA's. The main point is that the program was supposed to be set up for a really good year this season with all the seniors and not losing much from the previous year. And they are not very good. You just don't see growth and improvement as guys move through the program from Freshman to Senior. Either the players are not working very hard on their games or the coaching is awful. Guys are here for 5 years and are the same player as they were as freshmen. Also, the player rotations and lineups are a complete mess. I have always liked Jacobsen as a person. And I thought he was the right hire when McDermott left, but I think it may be time to move on to a new idea with a new guy.

OMG

Kaboom

[unifan]

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Earlier in the season we were playing with our guard-dominated lineup. It seemed like we were consistently getting outmanned by the bigger, more athletic teams. The last few games we've switched to the bigger lineup, and while it worked well at Illinois State, tonight it seemed like we were outmanned by the smaller, quicker team. Frustrating.

[jnutt]

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well....that didn't take too long for some of you to jump off that cliff.

[TheWhizzz]

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Not trying to be a dick but maybe this team this year just really isnt that good. Maybe the expectations were to high?

[06panther10]

How could so many people, smart people, be so wrong about this team???

Everyone, from all of us idiots on here to national CBB writers, and even coach Jake himself had predicted this team to be anywhere from pretty good to really good. Possibly even a MVC title contender and certainly a NCAA tournament contender.

Its absolutely baffling to me that we are sitting here at 8-8 (1-3), and 0-2 at home in Valley play. This is probably the most disappointed I have ever been in a UNI bball team.

[UNIChippewa]

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[QUOTE=coachdon;339877]The possibility of playing a Thursday night game in St. Louis is immaterial really. No matter when they play, they are highly unlikely to win the Tournament or play in the NCAA's. The main point is that the program was supposed to be set up for a really good year this season with all the seniors and not losing much from the previous year. And they are not very good. You just don't see growth and improvement as guys move through the program from Freshman to Senior. Either the players are not working very hard on their games or the coaching is awful. Guys are here for 5 years and are the same player as they were as freshmen. Also, the player rotations and lineups are a complete mess. I have always liked Jacobsen as a person. And I thought he was the right hire when McDermott left, but I think it may be time to move on to a new idea with a new guy.[/QUOTE]

You know, I normally try to be civil with those whom I disagree with, and I think it's possible and preferable to be able to disagree without being disagreeable...but your post is offensively stupid and ridiculous and you should be ashamed for even thinking the last part of it, much less putting it into writing.

Do you seriously want to fire a guy who in 6 and a half seasons as a head coach has won 137 games because we're having a down season so far? Have you really thought this through? So far, the worst season's that Coach Jake have had have been 18 win seasons in his first two years. That was considered a good season back in Eldon Miller's time. This is the first real "down" season we've had in a number of years, and although losses like last night hurt, we're not out of a solid conference showing just yet (and no, I do not consider the last two seasons, when we won 20 games and won a post-season tournament game in each, down seasons even if they do pale to our Sweet 16 season three years ago). Put your money where your mouth is; who should we hire in case TD takes your advice and pulls the trigger? You? I take it the coach in the first part of your name means you have some coaching experience? Is that why you feel qualified to call for a coaching change?

Look, this season so far is not meeting anybody's expectations, certainly not mine as a fan. But...as another poster wrote, maybe we all got our expectations too high based on what we had coming back. Guys like Koch and James are certainly not having great senior seasons so far. The non-conference schedule was certainly too difficult for us. Maybe losing Johnny Moran was a bigger loss than we all thought, even though there are a few on here who hate him. It's certainly not the kind of season we all wanted the team to have, but it's waaaaayyyyy too early to start demanding a coaching change.

[williebat]

How could so many people, smart people, be so wrong about this team???

Everyone, from all of us idiots on here to national CBB writers, and even coach Jake himself had predicted this team to be anywhere from pretty good to really good. Possibly even a MVC title contender and certainly a NCAA tournament contender.

Its absolutely baffling to me that we are sitting here at 8-8 (1-3), and 0-2 at home in Valley play. This is probably the most disappointed I have ever been in a UNI bball team.

Nice post. That is why it hurts so bad. We did not live up to our expectations. Painful to watch our offense. We had flashes of greatness but that is all they are flashes. Our bench can make threes sometimes but other than that nothing. Does buss eat? For gods sake get that kid on protein shakes.

I would never want coach jake to leave. Ever. But he has to know that as panther fans we expect and want nothing less than NCAA tourney teams. Period. we are going on three years without this caliber of team. Disappointing.

[jnutt]

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You know, I normally try to be civil with those whom I disagree with, and I think it's possible and preferable to be able to disagree without being disagreeable...but your post is offensively stupid and ridiculous and you should be ashamed for even thinking the last part of it, much less putting it into writing.

Do you seriously want to fire a guy who in 6 and a half seasons as a head coach has won 137 games because we're having a down season so far? Have you really thought this through? So far, the worst season's that Coach Jake have had have been 18 win seasons in his first two years. That was considered a good season back in Eldon Miller's time. This is the first real "down" season we've had in a number of years, and although losses like last night hurt, we're not out of a solid conference showing just yet (and no, I do not consider the last two seasons, when we won 20 games and won a post-season tournament game in each, down seasons even if they do pale to our Sweet 16 season three years ago). Put your money where your mouth is; who should we hire in case TD takes your advice and pulls the trigger? You? I take it the coach in the first part of your name means you have some coaching experience? Is that why you feel qualified to call for a coaching change?

Look, this season so far is not meeting anybody's expectations, certainly not mine as a fan. But...as another poster wrote, maybe we all got our expectations too high based on what we had coming back. Guys like Koch and James are certainly not having great senior seasons so far. The non-conference schedule was certainly too difficult for us. Maybe losing Johnny Moran was a bigger loss than we all thought, even though there are a few on here who hate him. It's certainly not the kind of season we all wanted the team to have, but it's waaaaayyyyy too early to start demanding a coaching change.

^this. I was wondering when the foolish "fire Jake" posts would come. Last nights game was similar to the loss to Louisville. Y'know, one of the best teams in the nation. Nate Buss comes in, team makes a big run, and has a chance to win it. It's not on the coaching staff that the players don't make Free throws. You want Mac back? The free throw shooting was horrendous under him. Then again, practicing free throws is up to the player to do on their own more than it is the coach to practice. UNI has been in every game regardless of who we line up against. THAT is coaching.

[jegbomb52]

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Ummmmmm....you do realize you told everyone MANY times we would be a Thursday night team the same year we won the conference right?

So, maybe posters have a reason to get on your case when you make such predictions ONE game into conference play.

I have made that prediction three times, one time we ended up being the 6 seed due to tie breakers (we were tied with 3 teams and got a break), one time yes we did win it but at the time we had a reason for worry (We had just lost to Indiana State and were an under .500 basketball team after a relatively lax non con schedule, and the other is right now....

So yes, I do realize, three times. There they are, was I crazy?

[jegbomb52]

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your senior leaders who are clutch from the line can't miss them at the end of games. Bohannon just barely loses the ball on the layup late. It's small mistakes that cost them the game. That and Evansville was perfect from the line in the 2nd half.

We ALWAYS seem to get back into the game when Buss comes in. I hope we see more of him. There are a lot of peices to this team and it's taking time to figure out who works and where.

Jeg. What do you want to wager on the whole "Playing on Thursday thing?"

I would throw a hundy on it, want to meet up in Omaha? Are you going out?

[jegbomb52]

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We look like one, but SIU, Drake, IllSU, and Bradley are still more likely. We'll see if MSU comes back down to earth as well. I'm not worried yet...

And a week ago it wasn't Illinois State in that group, it was Evansville, who are you guys going to throw into the mix if Bradley beats us at home? Or if Drake beats us? You have seen that Drake played within 3 of WSU at half, SIU lead WSU by 9 last night at half IN Wichita, we were mopped for 40 minutes straight.

Some of you won't be worried if we were 2-13 and a road game left in Omaha, you would be all like "we can win 2 in St. Louis and maybe the committee will let us in...."


Sorry for all the posts at once, lot of catching up to do.

[jnutt]

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I would throw a hundy on it, want to meet up in Omaha? Are you going out?

Omaha still a question mark. Depends on a few things (namely the doc visit today about the ankle). I will let you know.

[run&blade]

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You dont need a slide rule to figure out this team lacks talent to win in the valley. If you think otherwise than we will agree to disagree. Some of those guys have no business playing in the valley.

Next year will be hideous if they dont bring in a juco or transfer big guy will skills.

[Khan4Cats]

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You dont need a slide rule to figure out this team lacks talent to win in the valley. If you think otherwise than we will agree to disagree. Some of those guys have no business playing in the valley.

Next year will be hideous if they dont bring in a juco or transfer big guy will skills.

You do realize this team is one defensive stop and one made basket in four different games from being 12-4 with wins over two ranked teams and 3-1 in the Valley? Yeah, they suck. Nothing will change that, we are doomed for eternity.

Jeepers criminy people, get a grip. We are at the same point in conference with w/l that we were last year (we lost at WSU and home to UE, swapped W/L with the ISU's).