Up Next: Evansville

[06panther10]

Don't be so sure. Its not like he lit it up at Iowa State. What would the big C be without his son???? Not that great (Altman still had his hand in the current talent pool). If he isn't drawing attention everyone else doesn't get as open as they are. See what they have next year.

Your talent and toughness is obviously lacking. Jake is a good game coach, it seems, but maybe he needs help identifying talent because it has dwindled every year. You had your chance after the NCAA run and you clearly missed the boat on the pub. Usually thats what assistants are for. Don't know them are they any good at recruiting? Maybe start with the staff first. You may be looking for new coach if things stay like this.

Go away. Nobody took your bait the first few times you posted, why are you still here?

Is an Evansville fan seriously trying to come here and tell us what's what?? lol

[BCPanther]

Re: Up Next: Evansville

He should be proud, Evansville has cost this league more bids than any school in history by pissing the non-con down their legs and then somehow beating a contender in February in front of 1200 people in Evansville.

[BBALL_NATION]

Re: Up Next: Evansville

You all are nuts that was a serious question. I could care less about Evansville. I just know they are a surprisingly physical (thats polite for dirty) team. Your coach has done well with talent and now he doesn't have any or at least not as much.

Just saying he is not recruiting very well maybe he needs a staff change. Someone that recruits better than he can or evaluate talent a little better. So is the staff any good? Is this the same staff over the last 3 years? New guys? Just asking don't be so sensitive. You all are already talking about next years lineup

[jnutt]

Re: Up Next: Evansville

He should be proud, Evansville has cost this league more bids than any school in history by pissing the non-con down their legs and then somehow beating a contender in February in front of 1200 people in Evansville.

this is very true. though Missouri State seems to be the team this year. That or Illinois State looking like Wartburg

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Up Next: Evansville

You all are nuts that was a serious question. I could care less about Evansville. I just know they are a surprisingly physical (thats polite for dirty) team. Your coach has done well with talent and now he doesn't have any or at least not as much.

Just saying he is not recruiting very well maybe he needs a staff change. Someone that recruits better than he can or evaluate talent a little better. So is the staff any good? Is this the same staff over the last 3 years? New guys? Just asking don't be so sensitive. You all are already talking about next years lineup

if UNI is missing on guys, so are the 6 to 12 other quality schools that we beat out for our typical recruit.

[Khan4Cats]

Re: Up Next: Evansville

Well depending on your definition of doomed, yes. We have effectively ended our chances at both a conference championship, and an NCAA at-large bid after only 4 conference games. When you consider the expectations for this team (from almost everyone) that is a MAJOR disappointment in my mind.

If you are able to find optimism from what we have seen on the court through the first 16 games, then more power to you. But personally I dont take solace in the fact that we are "several plays" away from being 12-4. We aren't 12-4--we are 8-8 and have looked terrible in many if those games. Fact is, we are probably going to have to make a decent run just to finish in the top 6.

May I ask, what were your expectations for this season?

You are right. We are 8-8.

You are also right in that we looked terrible in many of those games.

My question is what do you think would happen if we find that gear where we no longer look terrible and play the way we all believe that we are capable of? I think the wins will start to pile up. We have seen flashes-so there is something there. It is not like we are getting rolled in every game. My point on the possessions issue was that we are right at that cusp when we have not been playing well. We start playing well and we not only make up the small distance between losing and winning and we move into winning by a more comfortable margin.

Note, we are 2-4 in games decided by 2 possessions or less. That makes us 6-4 in games decided by more than 2 possessions. If we were as bad off as some on here are trying to make it sound, we would be barely winning the games we are fortunate enough to win and getting crushed the rest of the time.

We have the talent. Something is just not clicking for some reason. If someone knows exactly what it is, get off this f-ing board and get down to the McLeod and camp outside Jake's office until you can get it fully explained to him.

[Kyle]

Re: Up Next: Evansville

My point on the possessions issue was that we are right at that cusp when we have not been playing well. We start playing well and we not only make up the small distance between losing and winning and we move into winning by a more comfortable margin.

Note, we are 2-4 in games decided by 2 possessions or less. That makes us 6-4 in games decided by more than 2 possessions.

You can claim we are better than our record indicates, but unfortunately, I think a better case can be made that we are fortunate to have the record we do.

We had to rely on a Toledo player throwing the ball straight to Seth Tuttle with 13 seconds left in order to get the win. This W also required Deon to go off for 27 points.

The other OT game against GM could have easily gone either way. We again relied on a last second TO and Tuttle to make six straight free throws at the end of the game.

St. Mary's and ISUred were both 2-3 possession wins, but a couple missed threes by us and a couple made threes by them will equal the opposite result. I don't think ISUred will shoot 11% from three or Dellavedova is going to go 3-11 very often.

I'm not trying to be a debby downer, but I'm just pointing out these woulda, shoulda, coulda, type arguments are silly. We are as good as a .500 team, no worse, and certainly no better.

[1988]

Re: Up Next: Evansville

He should be proud, Evansville has cost this league more bids than any school in history by pissing the non-con down their legs and then somehow beating a contender in February in front of 1200 people in Evansville.

Glass houses folks, Be careful I am sure we have caused the league some bids when we play teams like Wartburg.

[clenz]

Glass houses folks, Be careful I am sure we have caused the league some bids when we play teams like Wartburg.

The games against wartburg don't count toward ncaa consideration in anyway

Sent from the nexus of the universe

[Khan4Cats]

Re: Up Next: Evansville

You can claim we are better than our record indicates, but unfortunately, I think a better case can be made that we are fortunate to have the record we do.

We had to rely on a Toledo player throwing the ball straight to Seth Tuttle with 13 seconds left in order to get the win. This W also required Deon to go off for 27 points.

The other OT game against GM could have easily gone either way. We again relied on a last second TO and Tuttle to make six straight free throws at the end of the game.

St. Mary's and ISUred were both 2-3 possession wins, but a couple missed threes by us and a couple made threes by them will equal the opposite result. I don't think ISUred will shoot 11% from three or Dellavedova is going to go 3-11 very often.

I'm not trying to be a debby downer, but I'm just pointing out these woulda, shoulda, coulda, type arguments are silly. We are as good as a .500 team, no worse, and certainly no better.

While we will probably be .500 again next Wednesday, we saw a little bit more of what was expected coming into the season, today. It wasn't a perfect effort-the first five minutes of the second half saw us revrt to old ways. This should help build some confidence, keep playing with that kind of crispness on offense (ball rotation, decision on passes-not just because shots fell) and rotation/communication on defense and we could have a fun year yet.

[1988]

Re: Up Next: Evansville

The games against wartburg don't count toward ncaa consideration in anyway

Sent from the nexus of the universe

One post closer to 5000! I can't figure out if you should be proud or look for a more challenging job?