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  • College Basketball

    The college basketball game really needs a few changes to make it more watchable/enjoyable in my opinion. Jay Bilas stated it correctly earlier in the year when he said "Basketball is brutal to watch right now". I would like a few other rule changes but refs have to start calling fouls again, the defender should not be able to literally mug a player up and down the court which was evident in the game tonight.

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    the current style is part of what has allowed mid majors to be consistently competitive in my opinion.

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    • #3
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      Remember years ago when they tried to stop the hand check? Today the defense has a hand on them constantly.

      Very physical.

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        The carry call is a rule and never called anymore...making the game for guards easier like NBA. That's single on call I can't stand not being called.

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          I see a lot of double drivels that are not called. Also it is supposed to be 3 seconds in the lane not 3 minutes!!

          When player with the ball drives to the basket he use his other arm like a spear. How are you suppose to guard that? He travels too.

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            I see a lot of multiple drivels on here also.

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by 9YRPLAN View Post
              the current style is part of what has allowed mid majors to be consistently competitive in my opinion.
              You're at least partially right. A shorter shot clock and an increased emphasis on stopping the non-stop gang rape that is college basketball wouldn't be good for the midmajors. I think it is necessary, however.

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              • #8
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                Shortening the shot clock to 30 seconds would not be a bad thing. I would only agree with tightening calls on defenses if they also tighten the calls on the offense being able to lead with their shoulders or clear out with their off arms. The title of this thread is college basketball, but some of the proposals are attempting to turn it into professional basketball, which is not the same sport. If all you want is an up and down dunk fest, then so be it, but that's not basketball.

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                • #9
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                  The three point shot is what let midmajors compete.

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by Khan4Cats View Post
                    Shortening the shot clock to 30 seconds would not be a bad thing. I would only agree with tightening calls on defenses if they also tighten the calls on the offense being able to lead with their shoulders or clear out with their off arms. The title of this thread is college basketball, but some of the proposals are attempting to turn it into professional basketball, which is not the same sport. If all you want is an up and down dunk fest, then so be it, but that's not basketball.
                    What is basketball then? Look at the scoring in the last decade or so and you will see it is going down. I don't think people watched basketball back in the 90's and were outraged by what they saw, I certainly wasn't.

                    Basketball is a more exciting product when it is an up and down game. It doesn't need to be a dunk fest. I'm guessing 9 out of 10 impartial fans would prefer to watch an Iowa State game over a Wisconsin game due to the styles of play.

                    I would love to see the shot clock down to 30 and the officials to start calling fouls that are outlined in the rule book. If the shot clock is shortened, more teams will push tempo to try and get a good shot early. If officials start calling the hand-checking fouls, then that takes care of the offensive player driving and shielding with his off arm. If the offensive player isn't getting grabbed and pushed, he has no reason to push off.

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                    • #11
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                      Hoopfan is 100% correct. Basketball is meant to be an up and down game, but it doesn't have to be a dunk fest. Doug Collins put it best, "basketball is not about running plays, it's about making plays."

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by hoopfan View Post
                        What is basketball then? Look at the scoring in the last decade or so and you will see it is going down. I don't think people watched basketball back in the 90's and were outraged by what they saw, I certainly wasn't.

                        Basketball is a more exciting product when it is an up and down game. It doesn't need to be a dunk fest. I'm guessing 9 out of 10 impartial fans would prefer to watch an Iowa State game over a Wisconsin game due to the styles of play.

                        I would love to see the shot clock down to 30 and the officials to start calling fouls that are outlined in the rule book. If the shot clock is shortened, more teams will push tempo to try and get a good shot early. If officials start calling the hand-checking fouls, then that takes care of the offensive player driving and shielding with his off arm. If the offensive player isn't getting grabbed and pushed, he has no reason to push off.
                        Good post. Exactly right.

                        The college game is on the verge of being unwatchable, and worse yet, when anyone gets a lead of any kind the opposing team just starts fouling the **** out of them and makes the officials grind the game down. Sixty points shouldn't be a lot.

                        Start calling the mugging, start calling blocks correctly, and drop the shot clock to :30.

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                        • #13
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                          I like the current game much better than when we had ridiculously high scoring.

                          Individuals don't dominate games anymore. So we don't have Indiana State getting to the Final Four because of Bird (and despite having one of the worst free throw shooters ever on their team). But we do have Wichita State getting there because of the quality of their team and the ability of guys to step up when needed. The same thing was true of Michigan and Louisville last night. They were competitive because they were great teams, not just because they each had a great player.

                          I think the balance of high quality offense versus high quality defense is really good right now. People talk as if this was the 1940s and 50s when set shots ruled. I love watching great offenses have to overcome great defenses. That is what we saw in this tournament. Great basketball.

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                            Originally posted by UNIdadtobe View Post
                            I like the current game much better than when we had ridiculously high scoring.

                            Individuals don't dominate games anymore. So we don't have Indiana State getting to the Final Four because of Bird (and despite having one of the worst free throw shooters ever on their team). But we do have Wichita State getting there because of the quality of their team and the ability of guys to step up when needed. The same thing was true of Michigan and Louisville last night. They were competitive because they were great teams, not just because they each had a great player.

                            I think the balance of high quality offense versus high quality defense is really good right now. People talk as if this was the 1940s and 50s when set shots ruled. I love watching great offenses have to overcome great defenses. That is what we saw in this tournament. Great basketball.
                            Ditto!!!

                            I really think it comes down to the coaches are better than they use to be. Maybe not better people (Rutgers)!!

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                              I had cooled off on college basketball (and don't care at all about the NBA), but found myself getting interested again this year, perhaps because of the greater sense of parity despite Louisville winning it all.

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