Up Next: Dubuque

[FOTY]

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Also that is a good d3 team that won the Iowa Conference last year.

Robbie has turned that program around. If he can sustain it for a couple years, I see some great things in his future. Love seeing Panthers succeed after their time on the court!

[BCPanther]

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Keep in mind that we had three low level inexperienced officials, they're not guys that spend all summer going to clinics teaching younger officials and working with the rules committee and conference heads of officials like we'll see once the season starts.

If games are called like this, however, college basketball is going to be borderline unwatchable. There will be no flow and by Mid-December every team in the country will be playing a 2-3 zone and we'll have jump shooting contests. I just don't understand the fascination with thinking that games have to be played in the 80s and 90s. Early indications are that it's going to have the opposite effect.

The only thing they needed to change was the excessive hand checking of the ball handler. That would have created flow by itself. But now you're calling a foul on a defender for chesting up a cutter or driver. That's good defense!


My guess is that by the time conference play rolls around this will be greatly relaxed. Just make sure it's after the VCU game. I'm not sure how teams like them, Wichita, Louisville, and Kentucky are going to function in this system.

[wufan]

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My guess is that by the time conference play rolls around this will be greatly relaxed. Just make sure it's after the VCU game. I'm not sure how teams like them, Wichita, Louisville, and Kentucky are going to function in this system.

VCU will have a lot of trouble with their signature defense. While Wichita and Louisville will struggle to find the right combination of physical defense body contact, ultimately the longer more athletic player should have the advantage under this officiating.

Creighton already plays this type of defense. If they stop flopping, they might have the biggest advantage of anyone in the country.

[hoopfan]

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Keep in mind that we had three low level inexperienced officials, they're not guys that spend all summer going to clinics teaching younger officials and working with the rules committee and conference heads of officials like we'll see once the season starts.

If games are called like this, however, college basketball is going to be borderline unwatchable. There will be no flow and by Mid-December every team in the country will be playing a 2-3 zone and we'll have jump shooting contests. I just don't understand the fascination with thinking that games have to be played in the 80s and 90s. Early indications are that it's going to have the opposite effect.

The only thing they needed to change was the excessive hand checking of the ball handler. That would have created flow by itself. But now you're calling a foul on a defender for chesting up a cutter or driver. That's good defense!


My guess is that by the time conference play rolls around this will be greatly relaxed. Just make sure it's after the VCU game. I'm not sure how teams like them, Wichita, Louisville, and Kentucky are going to function in this system.

Personally, I thought the game was called fairly well for the most part. To come on here and say it was the officials fault because they are low level is ridiculous. They go to the same camps and follow the same rules that the high level guys do. Knowing the politics of officiating, they may be much better officials than guys doing high level games, but don't know the right people to be doing those games or due to family life choose not to travel and do those games. It is going to be a really long year if people are going to come on here and blame the refs in an exhibition game with another 30 games to go.

The games will be borderline unwatchable until everyone adjusts, fans included. This really shouldn't be that big of a deal. It is going back to playing basketball the way it was meant to be played. Teams that are good fundamentally and in the right position are still going to be rewarded.

While the new rules may slow the game down some and make it harder to watch, the new uptempo style of play is already a hundred times more enjoyable to watch than dribbling for 25 seconds and running a pick and roll to get a shot up.

I'd be more concerned that we have had all fall to adjust to these new rules, including having Hartzell ref scrimmages and we still can't/won't make the adjustments that the rules mandate.

[06panther10]

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I think our d might really struggle this year

Our D isn't going to struggle any more than everyone else's is. There has been a ton of fouls called in these exhibitions and it goes both ways. We have been at the line a ton in these exhibition games.

Looking at the positive aspect of this, we are usually one of the better FT shooting teams in the country, and the rule changes are going to put us at the line more often. Plus, somewhat undersized post guys like Seth Tuttle may benefit significantly from these changes.

[06panther10]

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Oh, and by the way I was at the game last night. Tuttle was great and Wes is just awesome. Wow, am I glad we get to watch him for the next three years.

[9YRPLAN]

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Our D isn't going to struggle any more than everyone else's is. There has been a ton of fouls called in these exhibitions and it goes both ways. We have been at the line a ton in these exhibition games.

Looking at the positive aspect of this, we are usually one of the better FT shooting teams in the country, and the rule changes are going to put us at the line more often. Plus, somewhat undersized post guys like Seth Tuttle may benefit significantly from these changes.

i cant agree with this. we rely on bodying up folks and taking charges.

[WuShock54]

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Just make sure it's after the VCU game. I'm not sure how teams like them, Wichita, Louisville, and Kentucky are going to function in this system.

Those last 3 teams are likely going to win more than 80 games combined so they'll be functioning just fine.

If last night is any indication, WSU is adapting just fine to the new rules.

[catsize]

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Those last 3 teams are likely going to win more than 80 games combined so they'll be functioning just fine.

If last night is any indication, WSU is adapting just fine to the new rules.

It would seem WSU and UNI must be pretty similar then in adjusting since WSU was called for 19 fouls and UNI 20 the night before. It's an exhibition game, your opponent played only 10 guys and only 8 more than 5 minutes. Don't think you can base too much on that.

The rule enforcement will have an impact. How much? I don't think anyone will know until later in the year. UNI has always worked on position defense first and helping rather than trying to go for steals anyways. The big question will be just how much will offensive players be allowed to get away with before anything gets called on them. A player like Kwadzo would have a field day with being able clear space for himself under these new rules.