Troys Take this week

[9YRPLAN]

There are several types of fans that are found in every fanbase. One type is certainly "I deserve excellence" guy and another is "get off my lawn" guy. This person seems to be both.

I think we have a less-sophisticated fanbase for a number of completely legitimate reasons, the main one being the relative youth of our athletic department as a legit D-1 program and the corresponding lack of multi-generational non-dual fans. However I cringe as read things like the linked commented from a season ticket holder, while at the same time hearing how we should be viewed on a similar level as the other two public D-1 programs in the state.

I think we have a fantastic athletic department and troy could be gone at any time with the success he's seen at UNI. I am aware that pessimists unfortunately tend to be louder but what are your opinions on the sentiment expressed by this person?

https://mobile.twitter.com/UNIAthlet...50410333609984

[BCPanther]

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This one was brutal. I'm actually kind of glad Troy chose to use these.

[UNIdad]

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Troy addresses these questions head-on with relevant facts and clear explanations. I appreciate that.

[sivert]

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Requirements like this are great. We all want a healthy program. It's easier to give more (and happily) knowing that a lot of others are doing the same.

[Panther-Sheik]

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My opinion is that I'd rather hear these types of questions or "gripes" publicly than have them constantly murmured among the fan base. At least this way they can be properly addressed and rumors or misconceptions can be corrected. I think Troy did extremely well with both questions and I'm glad he chose to confront these questions publicly instead of dismissing them and keeping them under wraps. Well done, TD.

[Panther AC]

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Troy's response to the season ticket question should be read verbatim by the ticket office employees who respond to those who chirp about a PSC donation.

[panther-state]

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Very glad this was posted. I saw the tweet from the athletic department earlier and was really shocked to see these questions in contrast to the normal, less confrontational ones that are used. I was really impressed with the facts and explanations used by Troy in his response. Some fans try to act like they understand exactly what it takes to run a program of our caliber and yet there are so many things that we don't see/understand that go into the annual operations of an athletic department.

[GonzoCat]

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The first question about changing football coaches was stupid and Troy basically ignored it as he should have while pointing out the high performance coach Farley has achieved. Of course athletics is a "what have you done for me lately" career, and as remote as the prospect appears now, there does exist a scenario in terms of wins and losses alone under which a change would be made. I suspect it would take 4-5 years of losing records to reach that point. No reason to discuss a hypothetical that we are currently so far removed from.

I do agree with the second sentence that no playoffs this year would be a huge disappointment. I would be very disappointed for the players, the coaches, and the fans, in that order, if we don't not only make the playoffs, but progress well into them. But I won't be calling for changes if it doesn't happen either.

As to the bb season ticket holder I think he's making a point that the all in cost of his tickets is about $45 per game, and I'd have to agree that's pretty steep price for a bb game. I think it's steep not because it's UNI, but would be for Iowa, Kansas, or Duke as well. That's a matter of personal economic circumstances and priorities though, and there are many people that would consider it a pittance. That's why those people get the best seats. If the market will bear it for those seats then he has to decide if it's worth it to him or if he wants to opt for cheaper seats instead.

The other factor is he shouldn't really be considering the PSC membership as part of the cost of his bb tickets as those funds are used to support the overall athletic department. People need to be sold on the PSC membership seperately, but having it as a requirement to purchase certain level season tickets blurs the line. I was a PSC member before I was a season ticket holder (fb not bb) so when I was told I could upgrade my seats because of it I thought it was great, I never considered it as an added cost to my season tickets.

[DrewDog]

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I always compare the cost of a ticket and time I would spend with what other things we spend our money on for entertainment. So $45 per game, when the PSC support figured in, is comparable to a round of golf at a lot of courses. The other thing I would consider is that roughly half of that $45 per game is likely tax deductible since it is the PSC donation.

[GonzoCat]

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Well compared to golf, it's a great bargain. You'd have to pay me quite a bit to get me to golf.

[9YRPLAN]

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Basketball has never been a great value to me. Too much of a time investment for 2 hours of entertainment, unlike football. I much prefer hoops on tv. Just my opinion.

[Kyle]

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He has a valid point about the $250 "donation".

If you thought the McLeod Center was an empty shell the past three years, just wait for the ruckus crowds of approximately 2,800 when anyone not named Wichita State rolls into town.

Adding $250 to each ticket effectively doubles the cost for season ticket holders. UNI fans have demonstrated extreme price sensitivity countless times, so why on earth would Troy decide to double ticket prices after one of our most disappointing multi-year stretches in over 10 years?

[JayJ79]

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He has a valid point about the $250 "donation".

If you thought the McLeod Center was an empty shell the past three years, just wait for the ruckus crowds of approximately 2,800 when anyone not named Wichita State rolls into town.

Adding $250 to each ticket effectively doubles the cost for season ticket holders. UNI fans have demonstrated extreme price sensitivity countless times, so why on earth would Troy decide to double ticket prices after one of our most disappointing multi-year stretches in over 10 years?

there are plenty of season tickets available that require a smaller PSC commitment, or no PSC donation at all. They just aren't in the "prime locations".

And many MBB season ticket holders probably already donate to the PSC already in order to get their centrally-located football season tickets.

But yes, many UNI fans are cheapskates, which just reinforces that it is a "little brother" university, since the other two have plenty of fans who have no problem donating such amounts in order to get their seating locations.

[run&blade]

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Sounds like the upcoming basketball season has a lot riding on it. Because McLeod is going to be a ghost town if they don't win regardless of ticket prices.

[Trapped in California]

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Hopefully they sell enough prime tickets at least to fill up the seats behind the bench.