Looking at 2015-2016

[otter]

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I think 3 NCAA bids is unlikely . . . because if we have 3 teams that are that good, they will beat each other and end up with additional losses that diminishes the committee's view of all 3.

A more likely scenario for getting 3 NCAA picks is to have a year like this with 2 great teams . . . but a third not-so-good team that sneaks in through the tournament while the other two have standout years.

Unfortunately, the MVC is unlikely to get the favored treatment based on parity that the Big 12 got this year. However, after how it has gone for the Big 12 this year, maybe the committee is rethinking it. Nah, I doubt it.

It all depends on how the league does during non-conf and who they play. 3 teams do really well before conference play starts and the league has high RPI then its possible to get 3 in. Its happened before.

[ubuntuCAT]

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It all depends on how the league does during non-conf and who they play. 3 teams do really well before conference play starts and the league has high RPI then its possible to get 3 in. Its happened before.

Also helps when your bottom 4 teams or so don't win any games against your top 3.

[UNIdad]

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It all depends on how the league does during non-conf and who they play. 3 teams do really well before conference play starts and the league has high RPI then its possible to get 3 in. Its happened before.

When was the last time that the MVC had 3 teams get NCAA picks?

How about with one of the two best winning the conference tournament?

When was that last time we had 3 teams ranked (or even getting votes) at the same time?

I can't think of when these have happened before. Our history is long enough that it probably has happened, but probably not recently.

[UNIChippewa]

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When was the last time that the MVC had 3 teams get NCAA picks?

How about with one of the two best winning the conference tournament?

When was that last time we had 3 teams ranked (or even getting votes) at the same time?

I can't think of when these have happened before. Our history is long enough that it probably has happened, but probably not recently.

2006, and it was actually 4 teams.

IIRC, it was us (UNI), as a 10 seed, losing to Georgetown in the 1st round (a loss that actually brought me to tears, I must admit). SIU as an 11 seed (got smoked by West Virginia in the 1st round). Bradley as a 13 seed (beat Kansas in the 13 over 4 upset special, then beat Pitt to get to the Sweet 16, and last but not least Wichita State, who was a 7 seed who beat Seton Hall, then upset 2 seed Tennessee to get to the Sweet Sixteen.

[UNIChippewa]

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Sign me up for Colorado State. They're loaded next year.

Wichita/San Diego State has to happen.
UNI/CSU
IlSU/Boise
Loyola/UNLV
Indiana State/WYO (obviously)
Drake/New Mexico
Evansville/Utah State
MSU/Fresno
SIU/Air Force
Bradley/Nevada

How does that look??

Would love to play Colorado State next year, and for purely selfish reasons I hope that game would be in Ft. Collins, if for no other reason than it would be a game I could drive to from where I live.

Would help make up for me not going down to the Denver game this last season, a decision I shall eternally regret.

[Gboom23]

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2006, and it was actually 4 teams.

IIRC, it was us (UNI), as a 10 seed, losing to Georgetown in the 1st round (a loss that actually brought me to tears, I must admit). SIU as an 11 seed (got smoked by West Virginia in the 1st round). Bradley as a 13 seed (beat Kansas in the 13 over 4 upset special, then beat Pitt to get to the Sweet 16, and last but not least Wichita State, who was a 7 seed who beat Seton Hall, then upset 2 seed Tennessee to get to the Sweet Sixteen.

Yep. That same year (05-06), the Valley had 4 teams at least receiving votes. The week 14 AP poll had UNI at #25 and 3 teams receiving votes (Creighton, Wichita St, and Southern Illinois).

[BCPanther]

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Missouri State had an RPI of 21 that year and didn't get in. Valley should have had 5.

[Gboom23]

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The Valley's league RPI that year had to have been in the 5-7 range, right?

[BCPanther]

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The Valley's league RPI that year had to have been in the 5-7 range, right?

5th. We were ahead of the Pac-10 if memory serves...

[UNIChippewa]

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Missouri State had an RPI of 21 that year and didn't get in. Valley should have had 5.

It is interesting to think that out of the 4 MVC teams that made it that Creighton was not one of those 4 teams.

I also remember Jim Nantz and Billy Packer made complete a$$es of themselves on the selection show b!tching and whining about how the MVC got too many bids and wound up with egg on their faces when half the conference made it to the Sweet 16. That was also the season when George Mason made it to the Final Four, and if I remember correctly they were really questioning GM's inclusion into the field.

I can barely stomach Nantz these days, and I'm very glad that Packer is gone. What a mean, arrogant old man he was (and likely still is). I would be tempted to punch him in the throat if I saw him today, no matter how ancient and hobbled he might be.

[UNIdad]

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2006, and it was actually 4 teams.

IIRC, it was us (UNI), as a 10 seed, losing to Georgetown in the 1st round (a loss that actually brought me to tears, I must admit). SIU as an 11 seed (got smoked by West Virginia in the 1st round). Bradley as a 13 seed (beat Kansas in the 13 over 4 upset special, then beat Pitt to get to the Sweet 16, and last but not least Wichita State, who was a 7 seed who beat Seton Hall, then upset 2 seed Tennessee to get to the Sweet Sixteen.

Okay, well there we have the answer to my question about the last time 3 teams made it to the NCAA tournament . . . and it was 4!

[UNIdad]

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Yep. That same year (05-06), the Valley had 4 teams at least receiving votes. The week 14 AP poll had UNI at #25 and 3 teams receiving votes (Creighton, Wichita St, and Southern Illinois).

For this, I wasn't asking about having 3 teams ranked at some point in the season, but at the same time. There was such a big deal this year about having two Top 20 MVC teams playing each other for the first time in decades. Seems like there couldn't have been very many times when 3 MVC teams were ranked if they never played each other while ranked.

[ToGoldFalls!]

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It is interesting to think that out of the 4 MVC teams that made it that Creighton was not one of those 4 teams.

I also remember Jim Nantz and Billy Packer made complete a$$es of themselves on the selection show b!tching and whining about how the MVC got too many bids and wound up with egg on their faces when half the conference made it to the Sweet 16. That was also the season when George Mason made it to the Final Four, and if I remember correctly they were really questioning GM's inclusion into the field.

I can barely stomach Nantz these days, and I'm very glad that Packer is gone. What a mean, arrogant old man he was (and likely still is). I would be tempted to punch him in the throat if I saw him today, no matter how ancient and hobbled he might be.

I believe Creighton was a good team too at 19-9 or something like that.

I too remember Nantz and Packer complaining about all the "mid-majors" getting in the tournament like the two old guys from The Muppets. They were really upset about George Mason. Nantz even claimed that GM losing to Creighton in the non-con was a reason they shouldn't be in.

[achrist70]

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Billy Packer was possible the worst announcer of all time

He actually claimed this week that this year's Kentucky team could beat the good Bob Knight Indiana teams.

[KingCat]

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Just so everyone knows.... Our schedule next year is really really good. Or bad. Tough? I don't know how to go about it but it's gonna be a really interesting year with a lot of great games coming.