Looking at 2015-2016

[run&blade]

Re: Looking at 2015-2016

Need somebody built like a brick $&!!house to lay down the law inside. Need somebody that can score with their back to the hoop.

Roll players are needed but you can't win at a high level with no stud to base it all off.

Last night when Tuttle was out that was a glimpse of what next year will look like against good teams.

Recruiting will have to go up another notch if you want a winner (as in ncaa tournament) more than once every four or five years.

Transfers juco or foreign don't matter to me.

Frankly, I think the valley slips back to a one bid league next year. In college basketball as far as I am concerned you either make it to the tournament or you tied for last.

Uni lost three great athletes last nigh in Mitchell Tuttle and singleton along with instant offense in buss. Louisville torched uni with speed last night and uni on paper has even less next year.

You win the players. Time to capitalize and get some.

[06panther10]

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I'm very high on Carlson's potential. He's got good size, and is a great athlete. People want him to step in and fill that Marvin/ORear role, I think he easily does that and could very well surpass both of those guys because he, by far, eclipses those two in size and athleticism.

With him, Koch (6'9), Friedman (6'8), and Dahl (6'11), I feel really good about our front court going forward. Those guys are big, young, and talented.

[BCPanther]

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McDonnell gives a guy that can play the Swing 4 that we haven't really had since Adam Koch. Jake Koch was close but we pretty perimeter oriented on offense.

Next year will be the biggest team Jake has ever had size wise. You'll have moments where you'll see two bigs with 6-5 and 6-6 on the wing with a 6-4 point guard (Austin). Jake has never had that luxury.

The talent level continues to go up and up and up.

[06panther10]

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Need somebody built like a brick $&!!house to lay down the law inside. Need somebody that can score with their back to the hoop.

Roll players are needed but you can't win at a high level with no stud to base it all off.

Last night when Tuttle was out that was a glimpse of what next year will look like against good teams.

Recruiting will have to go up another notch if you want a winner (as in ncaa tournament) more than once every four or five years.

Transfers juco or foreign don't matter to me.

Frankly, I think the valley slips back to a one bid league next year. In college basketball as far as I am concerned you either make it to the tournament or you tied for last.

Uni lost three great athletes last nigh in Mitchell Tuttle and singleton along with instant offense in buss. Louisville torched uni with speed last night and uni on paper has even less next year.

You win the players. Time to capitalize and get some.

1) We have recruited very well.

2) We have made the tournament 6 times in 11 years.

3) We are going to have a good to very good team next year, and going forward.


You can refuse to acknowledge these things if you choose to do so, but they are reality.

[orangetennis]

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1) We have recruited very well.

2) We have made the tournament 6 times in 11 years.

3) We are going to have a good to very good team next year, and going forward.

You can refuse to acknowledge these things if you choose to do so, but they are reality.

I think his point is that even though we have reached the NCAA's 6 times in 11 years, we have just three NCAA wins in those 11 years. We all talk about raising our level of competition, using Gonzaga's program as a goal, and to do that we will need even better recruits.
I, for one, would like to reach the NCAA's a little more consistently than 6 out of 11 years and I would like to have a chance to advance more when we get there. I think that is possible in a Valley without sCUm, but to advance in March, which is the real goal, we need not be satisfied with the quality of recruits we've been getting (even though they are better than just a few years ago.) I am happy with what the program has accomplished in the last decade and proud of it but we need not be satisfied at this point either. We can continue to get better.

[run&blade]

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1) We have recruited very well.

2) We have made the tournament 6 times in 11 years.

3) We are going to have a good to very good team next year, and going forward.


You can refuse to acknowledge these things if you choose to do so, but they are reality.

I welcome the challenge of opinions and the chance for time to prove one party's predictions over the others.

If you think UNI has plenty of speed, athleticism, and suitable size that is your opinion not mine. I doubt most people agree with you.

Time will tell, it is the ultimate judge in sports.

Koch needs to learn how to shoot the three or consume about 6000 calories a day and I am not joking.

[06panther10]

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I think his point is that even though we have reached the NCAA's 6 times in 11 years, we have just three NCAA wins in those 11 years. We all talk about raising our level of competition, using Gonzaga's program as a goal, and to do that we will need even better recruits.
I, for one, would like to reach the NCAA's a little more consistently than 6 out of 11 years and I would like to have a chance to advance more when we get there. I think that is possible in a Valley without sCUm, but to advance in March, which is the real goal, we need not be satisfied with the quality of recruits we've been getting (even though they are better than just a few years ago.) I am happy with what the program has accomplished in the last decade and proud of it but we need not be satisfied at this point either. We can continue to get better.

What I would ask you is this: how would you judge the program in relation to what it was 5 years ago? 10 years ago? 15 years ago?

The answer to all of those is "exponentially better". Nobody is "satisfied". But the fact is that we have, year after year, continued to get better as a program (players, recruiting, facilities, financial support, reputation, etc) and as long as Coach Jake is here, in my opinion, there is no reason to believe this upward trend wont continue.

[run&blade]

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Wasn't uni coming off a sweet 16 fives year ago? Five years later you get a total of one one more invite one more win and another rebuilding project. I would say about the same.

Exponentially better would be compared to Sam Weaver not five years ago.

[06panther10]

Wasn't uni coming off a sweet 16 fives year ago? Five years later you get a total of one one more invite one more win and another rebuilding project. I would say about the same.

Exponentially better would be compared to Sam Weaver not five years ago.

Yeah, well the guy that wins the batting title is going to have a few 0-4, 3 strikeout games. Doesn't mean he isn't a .375 hitter.

Point is, we are in a better position to win at a high level now.

[Blue42]

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I want to see a big dose of Wyatt Lohaus next year.

This kid is a gamer and he shows it every time he gets into the game. Never intimidated...always aggressive.

I think his game savvy and courage will be big for the program the next 3 years.

[UNIhoops]

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Thinking about next years recruits possibly helping...I was just looking back at the year Seth was going to be a freshmen.

Page 41 on the basketball forum. http://www.panthernation.com/forumdi...r=desc&page=41

It looks like it was possible without several injuries that Tuttle could have even redshirted. I couldn't find much talk at all before his freshmen year about him becoming MVC freshmen of the year.

I'm hoping Dahl or McDonnell surprises us and comes in and helps us next year.

[unifan]

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In my opinion, Paul J. is going to have a great chance to step into the spotlight next season. Senior, plays with emotion, and can light it up from outside. Heres to hoping that he'll be a calm and steady hand that can lead other hungry players. I just think he seems like a great candidate to be our upperclassman/vocal leader/emotional leader/offensive threat when we need a bucket.

[Zakelsta]

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I'm beginning to get really excited about Justin Dahl. He's a legit 6'11". 240 lbs. That's the biggest guy we've had since Egleseder. And, he had 467 rebounds this year. That's 11th best in the history of Minnesota HS basketball. Very impressive. Only a few spots behind Cole Aldrich's senior year.

Whether or not he plays a lot next season, I think Dahl is the kind of guy we all really want to have, and some of is believe we NEED to have to succeed.

[achrist70]

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Thinking about next years recruits possibly helping...I was just looking back at the year Seth was going to be a freshmen.

Page 41 on the basketball forum. http://www.panthernation.com/forumdi...r=desc&page=41

It looks like it was possible without several injuries that Tuttle could have even redshirted. I couldn't find much talk at all before his freshmen year about him becoming MVC freshmen of the year.

I'm hoping Dahl or McDonnell surprises us and comes in and helps us next year.

If I remember correctly, I don't think that there was much chance that Seth or Deon redshirted, Marvin was the one who kind of got forced into losing his redshirt because of injuries and the fear that we might need him. It would sure be nice to have him for another year now.

[UNIpanther99]

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Are there any anticipated changes on the staff? I know someone mentioned Jake Koch coming on as a GA. Anything else?