Rule Changes for 2015-2016

[kochrab]

I thought it might be interesting to see what everyone thinks about the new rules coming into play this year. I know we've had a little talk about the new rules, but it is worth discussing further and the impact on UNI and basketball in general this season. I took the top 10 changes off ESPN's site so here goes...

1. 30 second shot clock from 35

2. Dunking in warm-ups and halftime allowed

3. Faking a foul by flopping and head jerking a class A technical foul

4. Expanded restriction arc from 3' to 4'

5. No counted basket on offensive fouls

6. Reduction from 20 sec to 15 sec timeout on foul out or substitutions

7. 10 second call in the back-court does not reset on timeout

8. Closely-guarded 5 second rule eliminated

9. Timeout reduction from 5 down to 4 plus no timeouts during live ball situations

10. Tons of logo rule changes allowing more logos

For anyone who wants to read the entire rule changes here is the link: http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/fi...10-20-2015.pdf

[claw]

Re: Rule Changes for 2015-2016

1. 30 second shot clock from 35
-I like it...I think

2. Dunking in warm-ups and halftime allowed
-Meh.

3. Faking a foul by flopping and head jerking a class A technical foul
-I like it...until we get called

4. Expanded restriction arc from 3' to 4'
-I like it

5. No counted basket on offensive fouls
-I like it

6. Reduction from 20 sec to 15 sec timeout on foul out or substitutions
- I wish it'd go away completely

7. 10 second call in the back-court does not reset on timeout
-I really like it

8. Closely-guarded 5 second rule eliminated
-Not sure yet.

9. Timeout reduction from 5 down to 4 plus no timeouts during live ball situations
-I like it, in theory. Doesn't affect players calling TO in live ball, does it? Only coaches?

10. Tons of logo rule changes allowing more logos
-Don't really care


My favorite one is - "A team timeout, granted 30 seconds or less prior to a scheduled media timeout or granted after the designated time for a media
timeout when there has been no stoppage in play, will become the scheduled media timeout.".

I hated watching coaches try to limp to a media TO to not waste a TO or see a full TO called at XX:15 on the clock and then a foul at xx:57 and having two breaks like that.

[06panther10]

Rule Changes for 2015-2016

My understanding is that the 10 second backcourt DOES reset on a TO, but not on an out of bounds call where possession does not change.

Also, I dont believe that coaches can call timeouts during live play any longer. TO's have to be called by players.

[kochrab]

Re: Rule Changes for 2015-2016

My understanding is that the 10 second backcourt DOES reset on a TO, but not on an out of bounds call where possession does not change.

Also, I dont believe that coaches can call timeouts during live play any longer. TO's have to be called by players.

I think you're actually right, I read the rule wrong apparently. The only way it resets is on stoppage of game clock which would be a timeout I suppose.

Does ESPN have it wrong then? This is their explanation of it:

Once the officials begin counting down 10 seconds to advance the ball past half court, there will be no reset. Teams can no longer bail themselves out with a timeout that gives them another 10 seconds to advance. It’s another change that will benefit strong defense, and the long-overdue change could end up being a benefit for teams that love to press.

[vbfan19]

Re: Rule Changes for 2015-2016

I think you're actually right, I read the rule wrong apparently. The only way it resets is on stoppage of game clock which would be a timeout I suppose.

Does ESPN have it wrong then? This is their explanation of it:

Rick Hartzell (former UNI AD who officiates D-I basketball) was on OPR the other day, and stated that timeouts DO reset the 10 second count, but balls knocked out of bounds do not.

[kochrab]

Re: Rule Changes for 2015-2016

Rick Hartzell (former UNI AD who officiates D-I basketball) was on OPR the other day, and stated that timeouts DO reset the 10 second count, but balls knocked out of bounds do not.

Interesting that everywhere I've read about it has stated otherwise. It would make sense though for timeouts. The problem for teams now will be that your coach cannot bail you out which probably helps enforce that rule. Plus, if you have to keep calling timeouts for getting the ball across half-court you're going to run out of timeouts a lot faster now because of only having 4.

[Codytwo]

Re: Rule Changes for 2015-2016

So they're just taking away the use it or lose it first half timeout?

[UNIAlum95]

Also the closely guarded rule doesn't exist on the dribble but does still exist when the ball is held.

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[kochrab]

Re: Rule Changes for 2015-2016

So they're just taking away the use it or lose it first half timeout?

It would seem that way, but instead they are just taking away one full timeout I believe so if you don't use any during the first half you'll have 3 in the second.

[otter]

Re: Rule Changes for 2015-2016

Expanded restriction arc from 3' to 4' - This is one of the rule changes that I see potentially impacting us the most. Last year it felt like we did a great job of getting in position and being able to draw a lot of charges which might not be as easy now.

[sivert]

Re: Rule Changes for 2015-2016

Add “faking being fouled by an opponent” as a Class A technical foul. Such acts include, but are not limited to, flopping or sudden movement of the head in an attempt to draw a foul. However, such fouls could only be assessed after an official has elected to use instant replay to review whether a flagrant foul has been committed and, in doing so, sees a clear violation of the rule involving faking being fouled.
Rationale: Penalize this unsportsmanlike act, which is becoming more prevalent.

How have the refs been told to implement this? It would be tough to see this clearly in the flow of the game. If there is no or minimal contact, and the defender flops, what did the ref see? Maybe he calls a foul. Maybe he sees enough to call a flop.

Case 1:
In real time, the ref thinks there was a foul, and calls it. The replay on TV shows it to be a flop. Commentators, fans, and coaches will cry out for the new rule to be implemented. "Go to the video! That was a flop!!"

Case 2:
In real time, the ref thinks it was a flop. He can't just call it - he is required to review it.

Case 3:
In real time, the ref is unsure. He must review it, I guess.

I think there is a danger of the refs spending the whole game watching the TV's, which would get boring.

Also,
Flopping has always been illegal. This just makes the punishment worse. I'm not sure that's the way to solve it.
It seems to me that flopping is NEVER called. They either call the offensive player, or they let it go. With the punishment worse, will it be called more? Seems like an odd choice.

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I think they would have been better off dropping the in-game foul for flopping, but reviewing games for flops afterwords. If you get assessed with a flop after a game you might lose eligibility in the game or first half of next game.

[Codytwo]

Re: Rule Changes for 2015-2016

Do small conferences such as the SWAC have replay abilities?

[domedays]

Re: Rule Changes for 2015-2016

I agree with Sivert. How does this go from something the refs rarely bother to call to something we need to stop the game for and call a technical. They are raising the stakes and increasing the chance of delays for a something that is bound to be called very inconsistently.
Prediction all message boards across the country will claim that their team was screwed the worst by this new rule. Of course Fran and the Hawkeyes will suffer the most unjust punishments (sarcasm).

[sivert]

Re: Rule Changes for 2015-2016

30 second shot clock:
"Running schools" like Iowa think this will help them - but it won't.
I think this will help us. We defend the half-court hard - until we can't. Two things make us break down: forced rotations and fatigue. It takes time to force a rotation favorable to the offense. Five less seconds to defend will be huge. Muscle fatigue after 15-30 seconds of sustained exertion is a huge factor.
It seems like so many times I've seen us defend for 32 seconds, and then at the last second, someone gets open, or drive in for a bucket.

The other unintended consequence of the 30-sec shot clock is that the 3-point shot will gain influence on the game. The more players who can shoot from behind the arc, the better.

So overall I think the 30-sec shot clock is to our advantage.

The 4-foot block-charge arc:
This one will make it tougher to get a charge, so might hurt us.

[BCPanther]

Re: Rule Changes for 2015-2016

I heard Tony Bennett talking about the new clock (head coach at Virginia who plays a very similar defense to us, for those that don't know). He said he's thrilled with the shortening of the clock. Said he thinks he'll get 5 or 6 more bad shots per game than he did before and thinks points per possession will go down substantially this year. i.e. running up and down the floor to take a bad shot quicker.

Also, when the clock was reduced from :45 to :35 scoring went down almost 6 PPG. I think we'll see another 2 or 3 PPG this year. And you'll still have idiots screaming that we need a 24 second clock.